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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-03 11:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #4501 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4501 ⌋

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05. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Endgame]



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06. [SPOILERS for How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World]



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07. [SPOILERS for Homestuck Epilogues]
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-05-04 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
I think Steve had been doing fine, actually. He told Tony that the guy who wanted a 'picket fence' was not the guy who came out of the ice. He didn't constantly look at Peggy's picture in CW or even in TWS (or AoU, or Infinity), so suddenly making him a big, mopey guy pining after her was lame.

They gave Steve and Bucky virtually no story closure at all. No, we weren't going to get a Steve/Bucky dip-kiss, but they barely *spoke*. It was ridiculous and infuriating. And then he gets old and will be dead fairly soon and so Bucky is abandoned and alone. That's *awesome*. I really thought Steve's storyline was lame as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you're so sad your precious Stucky didn't sail like it was never going to.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-05-04 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, please fuck off.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-05-04 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Because that is the only reason anyone could possibly be unhappy with the storyline.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
It has nothing to do with Stucky. Steve's characterisation throughout Winter Soldier and Civil War has been about finding Bucky and helping him adapt to his new surroundings, to try and cure him. Steve has also seemed pretty happy to be the leader of the avengers. There was no hint whatsoever he was still stuck on Peggy (even going so far as to kiss her niece!). Old Peggy herself told him to move on and he had.
End game retroactively changes all of this, and in the process belittles all that he has been doing to help his bff Bucky, takes away Peggy's autonomy from awesome kickass woman to Steve's girlfriend and makes no sense for Steve's character.
Yep, the last ten minutes of End Game made no sense whatsoever for how Steve's character has developed over ten years.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
i'm good with him ending up with peggy because i think they're cute, but that doesn't mean i don't see how glaringly bad the writers have been treating the steve+bucky friendship since tws.

this is supposed to be one of steve's longest and most defining relationships and yet since CW, and even during CW tbh, it felt like nothing more than 'oh i guess they know each other' it's weird alright? and doesn't track with how important they're supposed to be to one another. this isn't wanting an entire avengers movie focusing on them, but wanting their relationship to feel more than just casual acquaintances, which imo it doesn't.

i'm not one for shipper conspiracy theories but in this case i can actually buy that someone, or several someones, in the line are telling the writers to deliberately keep them apart because there is no reason for them to be as separated as they are.

and this isn't coming from someone who expected bucky to suddenly be headlining the mcu, i think he's alright and that's it, but his relationship with steve should not be as hollow as it is.

also: given steve going back in time for his HEA this means that he sat on his ass for however long 1. knowing that peggy's organization was filled with and overrun by hydra, and 2. knowing his best friend was being TORTURED the entire time.

... that's not a little bit shitty to his character that's A LOT shitty.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Your second paragraph is exactly how I feel about Steve's storyline.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-05-04 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
SO FRUSTRATING!

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
It's weird how hard the Russo's tried to downplay or ignore the relationship between Bucky and Steve, even in Civil War it felt kind of weak. You can tell they really didn't want to give any bait to the shippers.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
They don't care about shippers, like, at all. Bucky just isn't as important to the story they're actually telling as fans built him up to be.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-04 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
but they used him to give Steve ammunition against Steve? i have no horse in this race but they did show that the one thing he could think of to throw himself off was saying that bucky was alive. it seemed weird to me because he didn't play any role in the movie

i don't think they knew what they wanted

(Anonymous) 2019-05-06 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
There's an entire movie that's literally Steve : Bucky. 3 entire plots that had strong Steve & Bucky relationship entanglements. But somehow Bucky's not important? uhm, okay.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-05-04 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! It's like they wanted Steve and Bucky to be just kinda-sorta friends, he/they/it really isn't all that important, Steve didn't totally tell the US govt. and Tony, et al, to fuck off and die for Bucky, Bucky didn't break 70 years of torture and brainwashing/programming when Steve said his name, nuh-uh, never happened.....

ARGH.