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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-06 04:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4504 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Funny, that's how I feel about Golden Boy Steve and how much people will scream at you if you dare not like him or think the way he was about Bucky in TWS was super not okay.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
.......ok I know I’m going to regret asking, but what was wrong with Steve’s actions in TWS?

Or did you mean CW?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
TWS and CW were kind of part and parcel and he was kinda just. Not a great person about it because all he fucking cared about overall was poor, poor Bucky to the point it felt like he was willing to trample all over everyone else's feelings on the matter and the narrative made him out to be in the right. It started in TWS, too. It was the set-up. And then CW made it even worse.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
I actually think that's why fandom loves the pairing? That whole "I'll blow up the world just to save you" thing that fandom adores. They just fed it right to them.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course it's why the people into the pairing love it.

It's also why a lot of people aren't into the pairing, and have soured on Captain America.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I can see how people get that out of CW (though my take was somewhat different but that’s a different conversation). But I didn’t see anything like that in TWS at all. Taking down Hydra and saving lives was top priority for Steve in WS; Bucky came after that. Mileage varies, I guess.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I can understand it in CW, definitely, but in TWS he fought Bucky right up to the point that the mission was complete and only then stopped fighting and tried to help him.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-08 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, no. If he was really fighting Bucky he wouldn't have risked 2 million lives (according to the ridiculous plot we won't discuss) and would have shot him about 15 times when he had the opportunity. Cap really did not put his back into it on the helicarrier. He was trying to save Bucky, not take him down and certainly didn't want to kill him, if that was what it would take to save all those lives.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
He did all that shit for Bucky and then....... after he comes back from Wakanda, that was it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 10:21 am (UTC)(link)
Bucky is just not THAT important after they've wrung all the plot potential out of his character for TWO MOVIES.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Then that's just bad scriptwriting. There is plenty of potential for Bucky and Sebastian Stan is a good actor. They just decided not to build on his character. i agree with OP, I love Tony but the films do become about him and everyone else gets sidelined.
The sidelinning of Bucky also makes no sense for Steve, as CW and TWS was all about rescuing his bff and then he just seems to not bother about him. There wasn't even a reunion in Endgame. I personally felt cheated.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
How was he about Bucky in TWS? He was shocked most of the time?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Super curious about what was super not okay about TWS?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
When did Mr "Golden Boy" take over an ensemble movie/someone else's movie, though?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, fuck off. Your precious Tony got to take over yet another movie and he's finally dead. I never have to watch his sorry struggling ass again, and I'm beyond thankful for that mercy.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
I love Tony immeasurably. Truly, he is one of my all time favorite characters. Watching Endgame, I cried in a theater for the first time...ever? Yeah, wow, first time ever. And straight up, I find this specific comm's hate-on for him tiresome.

But I can't agree with you on this. I think Steve's actions regarding Bucky were very reasonable, very human actions. Maybe they weren't the definitive Right actions, but I don't think it was a situation where there was a definite Right way to act - just a bunch of bad options, and a very good man with feet of clay like everyone else.