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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-07 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4505 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
As much as I hate it, it makes sense to me that some people are scared of vaccines. I hate it but I get it. I don't support people who perpetuate the garbage about their opinions being as important as scientific evidence, but I understand why someone would want to believe they don't have to take that step and their children will be fine if they don't vaccinate.

It makes zero sense to me that anybody would think Sandy Hook was a hoax.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Being afraid of vaccines also makes zero sense. Both positions require rejecting reality entirely in favor of leaping to an entirely unsupported conclusion based on loud yelling from idiots with all the credibility of a toxic waste dump.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
nayrt but I think ayrt's point is, if you distrust "Big Pharma" and are squicked out about the idea of putting foreign chemicals in your body, you can start to see how these people came to their conclusions. It's not *intended* to be malicious, even if it's actively causing harm. I have no trouble understanding the thought process and suspicions of these people, even if I disagree.

Unsupported conclusions, absolutely. But if you don't trust the people telling you they are unsupported (pharmaceutical companies, government, etc.), that's how you get to that mindset. And it's a default position of *not* wanting to do something to your body that you don't understand.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still conspiracy theory mentality. It's the exact same thought process that leads credulous morons (as opposed to the deliberate assholes using conspiracy to mobilize said credulous morons) to believing the Sandy Hook Massacre is a hoax, or that 9/11 truthers are a legit. "Other side -> Can't trust other side -> They're trying to trick me -> This person is on my side so they must be right" is the mental channel through which all conspiracy theories flow, and one type isn't any more sensible than any other.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-07 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
But also, there a lot of people and groups you genuinely shouldn't trust. And it can be quite difficult to work those things out withoit falling into a paranoid, conspiratorial modality.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-08 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
There are people who don't vaccinate that aren't conspiracy nuts. I think for some people the fear of having a bad reaction or needles (valid fears, IMO) makes them more vulnerable to the idea that they'll probably be fine avoiding them, sadly. People feel false reassurance from seeing other families saying they don't vaccinate and none of them have died.

I personally hate getting them and I have to force myself. If I had been raised to believe they were harmful I wouldn't have gone out of my way to question it.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-08 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
There's a difference between "vaccine hesitancy" and "vaccine refusal" though - most health programs now ignore the actual anti-vaxxers and concentrate on the hesitant people.