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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-09 07:37 am

[ SECRET POST #4507 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4507 ⌋

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Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
For questions, rants, etc

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no time to write anymore and it's killing me. I keep trying to be adult and find time in my hectic adult life but so far, I've got nothing.

The one day I did managed to write, the next day I was back at work for 14 hours and somehow it was even more painful than usual because I had all these ideas and couldn't do anything about it.

Anyway sorry, needed to rant.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you make notes in your phone when you're on break?

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel you, anon. I work two jobs and it's so hard to find time to write with all the other stuff I have to do. I just feel so tired and want to decompress, so I'll read a book instead of writing or fall asleep in front of a Netflix marathon. I'm not as busy on the weekends, so I've set aside time to write then, but it's hard to get back into a story after going five days without looking at it.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel this. A few weeks ago I had some windows of time to write and I got a lot of writing done. Life happened and now I'm back to feeling like I can't write. Either I have no time or I am just mentally exhausted and writing is too much work for me.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Why Can't I Finish Anything?

The title of my (never to be finished) autobiography.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You and I are writing the same autobiography, nonny.

Chapter 1 The blank page

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh god, this. And the equally unfinished sequel: Four Unfinished Books Do Not Equal One Book.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Could be the start of an anthology of short stories with unsatisfying endings?

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sounds like we're working on similar projects, nonny.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
:o Maybe. My issue is conflict. I am great at exposition and setting the ~world~ but... then I hit a wall when I need conflict to move the story along.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, OP. /sigh

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to write a story where two characters leave their spouses for each other and I'm really having a hard time figuring out how to do it while making them both likable and not total jerks. I always thought that when you realized you were interested in someone else, you broke up with your partner, then you could start a relationship with the other person, and that was the right way to handle it, but lately there are several people around me saying "if you even think about someone else in a romantic way while you're in a relationship/married, it automatically counts as cheating" and it's just like...if that's the case, you can't do anything right.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Grace And Frankie tv series are all about this.
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Re: Writers thread

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2019-05-10 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Some people seem to be really extreme on what constitutes "cheating." A lot of these people are young and I think they're in for a surprise when they get into serious relationships and find out that it's not always easy. (I don't mean they'll end up cheating, just that some of them seem to think you just automatically shut off all thinking about other people when you get married.)

I think the main thing that would get to me in that scenario is if the characters didn't even seem to care about their partners or acknowledge that they once loved them or thought they did. I would avoid a story where it seemed like "their amazing love excuses anything they do." (Which doesn't sound like where you are going with this at all.)

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
realized you were interested in someone else, you broke up with your partner

Now, see, if the characters took THAT attitude I would have no sympathy for them at all.

Maybe that's because I consider "interested in" to mean "attracted to" and not equivalent to "definite mutual desire to leave our partners and be in a relationship together." I don't consider meerly being attracted to some to be cheating, btw. Also, whether it's attraction or actual cheating, I believe leaving a relationship under those circumstances is a choice and not a necessity imparted by some law of the universe, and not leaving is always an option (provided the other person wants you to stay, of course).

I think the main trick is to make the cheating characters the POV characters to help the reader identify with them. It helps if they feel at least a little bit bad about what they're doing and acknowledge that they are doing this because it's what the WANT and not some kind of force of nature they have no control over. It helps if you don't demonize the partners getting dumped. You don't have to go into their feelings or the fallout from their perspective, but you don't need to make them terrible to justify what's going on (that drives me up the wall in fic where the author wants to dispose of a canon partner by making them OOC evil). A relationship growing stale and lifeless is better than someone being randomly evil (unless an existing partner being evil is part of the plot, assuming these are original characters). Even if there's nothing wrong with the existing relationships, the cheating characters may realize that things have changed too much on an emotional level to just go back to the way things were and they can't be happy without leaving their partners.

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
the cheating characters

It sounds like they're trying to AVOID them being "cheating characters" by leaving the partners when they realize they want to be with someone else, INSTEAD of cheating (unless, of course, you're one of the "realizing you want to be with someone else is in itself cheating even if you don't act on it" type of people).

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
That's a complicated one, but not impossible. Honestly, just ignore the people who say that even thinking about someone else is cheating. Either they've never been in a serious relationship, or they're liars.

I'd say just write it realistically and acknowledge that even good, likeable people can make mistakes or have doubts. Don't try to contort the plot so that nobody is the bad guy - people see right through that.
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Re: Writers thread

[personal profile] 11thmirror 2019-05-10 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I'm trying to hammer out a (quite long) Dragon Age fic and the TIMELINE is going to KILL ME. How fucking small is Ferelden that the Warden and their party could criss-cross it that many times in under a year? How fast are their horses meant to be?? Am I putting more thought into this than the creators did???

Re: Writers thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-10 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
Those horses/dracothings/nugs ride like the wind!

"All told, it's been said that the whole of Thedas is comparable in size to modern Europe (about 4,000,000 mi²). If the map we have of Thedas is sized somehow without latitudinal or longitudinal skewing, Ferelden fits into it about six times (VERY ROUGHLY). So it could be 665,000 mi²... about."
Is what someone (Bysshe) wrote in reference to a comment Dagna made about how long it took to get somewhere. Here:

https://dragonage.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Just_how_big_is_Ferelden%3F

They go on to say it doesn't seem like the creators had anything specific in mind when making the map, so... yeah...