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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-12 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4510 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4510 ⌋

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Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The majority to the people they help don't seem to know the basics of self care/cooking/cleaning. The 5 are not going to be teaching them advance stuff. Frankly, if they people they help can master basic habits, that is a win.

Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure. Like I said it's not the Fab Fives fault that the show is formulaic. They do the same things over and over because the people who are chosen for the show all have the same problem every time: they want to be more conventional or feel normal, help! But the show IS formulaic for the reasons given.

OP was worried that people would think QE is formulaic and I'm saying they do because it is. And provided the basic reasons why it can't not be.

I don't really know what your stance is in regard to that, as you aren't disagreeing with any points I've made.

Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like you're conflating "functional" and "conventional" in a damaging way

Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-13 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
And having binged lots of the show in the past two weeks and been disappointed every time I got the vague hope that hey, maybe THIS episode will finally have the person end up remaining, for example, super-butch-but-functional-and-stylish-and-put-together-butch and having them end up, sigh, yet again, superfemme or lipstick androgynous, no, I don't feel I am.

There are many, many ways to do functional! Nonconventional styles can be functional! Having the video game nerd guy find tasteful shirts with subdued game insignia or little color-palette nods to his favorite hobbies or animes that don't scream WEEB WITH A BODY PILLOW was a total possibility... that they didn't go with at all. Functional and attractive and openly geeky styles that still look great exist! They didn't go with those. They pretty much always go for the straightforward conventional way.

The show makes a show of REVEALING TRUE SELF rhetoric, but lot of the time, it feels like the person had more character beforehand. It's not really a show about making people look like better versions of their original elves, but rather more conventionally attractive versions of themselves, if that makes sense.

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Re: tldr

[personal profile] sabotabby 2019-05-12 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

Yes, a lot of the styling is more mainstream than people go in with, particularly on the interior design end, but they're mainly talking about people who can't do the basics. And they always do seem to try to reflect the person's personality and tastes as much as possible.

Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with any of that, but if they wanted to not be formulaic, they could easily find someone who also can't do the basics but has goals of being something other than conventional... but they don't.

Example given, the nice frumpy lady who doesn't know how to self-care but wants to be a badass biker poly leather domme who also wants to learn to cook to host munches. Why not? She knows just as little of the basics as the rest and has just as much to learn. That won't ever happen, though, because they don't really have people on the show whose end goal, personality, or tastes is to be nonconventional in any major way. The same lady going in the reverse way, a leather chick who Just Wants to Be Normal, however, could easily happen.

Re: tldr

(Anonymous) 2019-05-12 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
They're the ones who choose what people to feature