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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-13 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4511 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4511 ⌋

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Re: SPOILERS

(Anonymous) 2019-05-14 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
While I didn't like the how suddenly Dany turned Mad Queen, the actual event was brutally well done. The footage of Arya running around in the horror was reminiscent (probably purposefully) of 9/11 footage. With the ash billowing down, people running covered in blood, and destroyed buildings. There was a silent part were I thought, "Oh, we should be hearing sirens".

The whole thing was admittedly horrifying and impactful. And there was actually a little bit that I kind of, sort of appreciated at the start of the rampage, in that I think it was meant to be something of a visual explanation for why the North flipped out and got their rape-and-pillage on. When the camera was focused on that child against the pillar while the North ran rampant, and the Northern soldier slits a woman's throat for trying to defend her son, I'm nearly positive that was meant to be a direct call-back to the Red Wedding and Catelyn's death. To show that a) the North in this instance has become equally horrifying and dishonourable, but also possibly b) that was the reason they became equally horrifying and dishonourable. After everything they've recently been through, to have to come down south and fight another fucking murderous Lannister ... When Dany flipped out and so violently avenged Missandei, and Grey Worm and the Unsullied flipped out and violently avenged their loved ones, I think it was meant to show that the North just let go and did the same for seven seasons worth of southern bullshit and atrocities and everything else they've had to live through lately while the south sat on its pretty Lannister ass and did fuck all.

I mean, it didn't really explain all that much, and it didn't make anything any less utterly horrifying, but I did appreciate the little visual reference?
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Re: SPOILERS

[personal profile] el_regrs 2019-05-14 11:08 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't catch that nod to the RW, but I could definitely see that connection, and the North being tired of the South's shit.

Someone on the internet (hahahaha) made an argument that was a little bit twisted and containing a hole or two, but I could see the logic in it. The losses the North sustained while fighting the NK and the army of the undead were great, and while they were doing all of that for the future of Westeros (and probably the world), KL was just sitting there, doing nothing, waiting, betting their own future on the sacrifice of the North. You know, instead of doing their part in defending the country and fighting alongside their brothers. So it was time to rebalance the scales and take out some numbers on the southern side, because only life can pay for life and all that.

Personally, I do think it was a mix of northeners being part weary, possibly part bitter, and susceptible to any crazy shit as a crowd may normally be when you get too many people together in a crazy situation where all it takes is one push. Kind of like a "everybody else is doing it" thing.

Re: SPOILERS

(Anonymous) 2019-05-14 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
I definitely do think there was a massive element of crowd action in there as well, and maybe a bit that the sheer shock of Dany/Drogon's rampage kind of signalled a complete break-down of normal order. Plus, there probably was an element of, once Grey Worm started the assault, the Lannisters/Red Cloaks were going to fight back ANYWAY, and they were unlikely to spare Northerners, so once the fight was joined at all there was no point holding back. And then, because nothing is ordered and everything is crazy and everyone knows that nobody is doing what they're supposed to be doing, it just devolves completely from there. Add in several seasons worth of resentment and bitterness, and you've got a lovely recipe for chaos and atrocity.