[ SECRET POST #4516 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4516 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Secret Etiquette Of Lady Takashima]


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03.
[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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04.
[Harry Potter]


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05.
[Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice]


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06.
[Stephen Fry as Inspector Thompson in Gosford Park]


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07.
[Dragon Age/Dragon Age: Origins/DA4]


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08.
[Queer Eye, S03 E01 "From Hunter to Huntee"]


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09.
[A View to a Kill]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I just fundamentally don't think those are good justifications for why it would be actively wrong to add an easy mode.

And it's definitely not really an explanation for the vitriol and criticism directed at people who do want that feature, or for people who use cheat codes to complete the game.

[(Anonymous)]

There only needs to be one justification.

1. The devs don't want to, in order to maintain the integrity of what their brand and intellectual property stands for, difficult and unforgiving gaming.

I think, after they've made that clear, continuously angrily demanding that they go against their own creative vision is actively wrong. All else is irrelevant.

[thewakokid]

That is also fair.

I remember the one of the bayonetta or DMC guys saying "I don't see a problem with adding an easy mode to my game" like it meant anything.

I'm like, "Sure, good for you, and I do enjoy your games, but we're not talking about your games right now."

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, if the devs went "we're adding easy and Super Easy Store Lore modes to all our games now" I'd just shrug and be ok with it.

Their whole capital-T Thing is the unforgiving stuff though. At this point I respect them sticking to their guns about it, even if I don't care for their games.

[(Anonymous)]

1. The devs don't want to, in order to maintain the integrity of what their brand and intellectual property stands for, difficult and unforgiving gaming.


That's a valid reason for not doing it but it doesn't make the people who want it wrong, either.

I think, after they've made that clear, continuously angrily demanding that they go against their own creative vision is actively wrong.

I disagree in the strongest possible terms.

[(Anonymous)]

Then that's where we'll have to be stuck.

For the record, the key word there to me is "demanding." If it were simply "wanting" it to change, no issue here. To me it's the difference between wishing there were more of your kink in fandom and demanding people who don't want to write it, to write it for you. Or berating them for not doing it after they've signaled disinterest. One's fine, the other is not.

Don't like, don't read. Don't like, don't buy.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that people shouldn't be rude or hostile about it, of course.

But I think the difference between "demanding it" and "wanting it to exist and not wanting to play the game unless it exists and saying so" is pretty miniscule.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I think the difference is vast.

Me stating that I refuse to read fics that have my NOTP in it, lemme know when that changes and meanwhile I'll move on with my life, is way different from me going to the author and being like, "you're -ist unless you write my ship. So do it already, assholes."

That is... simply not miniscule to me.

[thewakokid]

No, it's not actively wrong to want it.

It's actively wrong to DEMAND it. And to pretend like making that demand is you being the morally right person who is only trying to stand up for the poor little handicaps. That's what I'm seeing most people fight against.

And the Vitriol about using a cheat to beat it... was mostly aimed at a journo who wrote an article saying "I used cheats, it's no big deal" but then ALSO wrote an acticle "These are some tips to beat the game!"

You can cheat the game or you can get paid to pretend to be an authority on how to play the game properly. Doing both is shitty.

[(Anonymous)]

It's actively wrong to DEMAND it. And to pretend like making that demand is you being the morally right person who is only trying to stand up for the poor little handicaps. That's what I'm seeing most people fight against.

so basically, what's wrong is that people talk about it in a way that's annoying to you?

You can cheat the game or you can get paid to pretend to be an authority on how to play the game properly. Doing both is shitty.

How do you determine what the "proper" way to play a game is? Where does this idea come from that there's a proper way to play the game? Even if you disagree with this person about how they play the game, how does that justify vitriol towards them? What's shitty about that? How does any of this make sense?