[ SECRET POST #4516 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4516 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[The Secret Etiquette Of Lady Takashima]


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03.
[Avatar: The Last Airbender]


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04.
[Harry Potter]


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05.
[Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice]


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[Stephen Fry as Inspector Thompson in Gosford Park]


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07.
[Dragon Age/Dragon Age: Origins/DA4]


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08.
[Queer Eye, S03 E01 "From Hunter to Huntee"]


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09.
[A View to a Kill]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

That's why it was a metaphor and not me going "it's totally exactly like this bro!!!!!z"

It's the principle of the thing. The integrity of the brand. The point that what gives titles and achievements meaning is literally that not everybody can get them.

You missed that whole point, I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

there is nothing prestigious about beating a soulsborne game nor does it have integrity. I have the reflexes of a dead cat and I’m about to complete bloodborne because i spammed spin2win and dumped so many point in VIT I just tank hits till the thing I’m wailing on dies or I do first. That’s hardly the pinnacle of achievement.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and there are ways to cheese other titles and achievements too. That doesn't mean there should be an official easy mode that is marked out and officially supported by the original system.

And I'm someone that doesn't even like those games, because I have no interest in grinding away at them. But even I can understand what the devs were going for. All the clamoring to make them do the opposite of what they're trying to do is extremely entitled.

They just don't wanna write your ship, man. Leave it be and find another author who will. Everyone will be happier for it, I promise.

[(Anonymous)]

Then you admit achievements are meaningless if I a dead cat can get the same achievement someone else with actual skill can get because I decide to exploit a loophole. I say this as someone who likes tlFromSoft. The only thing that stops people from beating the games is time and the amount of effort they want to put forth. Not skill.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean ... you said it yourself. "Exploit a loophole." What people are demanding with an easy mode is a way to do that without feeling like they're cheating or exploiting loopholes. Officially sanctioned cheese.

I don't know if you missed it the first time, but like I said, an official easy mode that is marked out and officially supported by the original system is something different from cheese strats existing. If the devs added an easy mode, that would be implicitly saying "we approve of this" and they don't seem to want to. And that's okay.

Time and effort aren't nothing, either. I'll never beat those games because I'll never have the patience. That's okay too.

[(Anonymous)]

Easy mode doe not compromise the integrity of the work either way. Because you know what usually the default difficulty setting is? Normal. When games start having a default difficulty of easy and ONLY easy or hard options then you can complain. Games having an easy mode does not compromise the default game. And if you are that worried about achievements there’s a reason why there are difficulty locked trophies and achievements. Having easy mode does not take away from that. Just like how I exploiting buggy AI/grinding for infinity doesn’t measure how easy or hard the game actually is.

[(Anonymous)]

Totally an aside, but

Oh man, imagine the wank if the next game came out, and there's a mode called Easy. And it's the only mode available and exactly the same level of difficulty as the previous games. Technically, they did what everyone wanted!

It'd make EVERYONE so mad. I'd lol.

[thewakokid]

I personally want them to add in an easy mode that is harder then the regular mode, just to be a jerk really.

[thewakokid]

You still had to work for it. You still overcame your weaknesses (Reflexes) just as I overcame mine (Full blown dispraxia) You still had the same bosses, doing the same damage with the same attacks, you did it your way, I did it mine, but we fought the same enemies who were doing the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Nice to know being born disabled is a weakness, bucko. Fuck off.

[thewakokid]

I believe your sincerity here even less than I did in the above comment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tso8u4OJLuI

[(Anonymous)]

it's inherently a bad metaphor, sorry.

the reason you're not allowed to dope or do steroids in competetive games so it doesn't give you a unfair advantage over other players. If your just playing by yourself, no one cares (other then like health reasons)

your comparing the prestige of playing a hard single player game versus someone else playing the same game but in a different but ultimately in a way that doesn't effect you.

it's like getting made someone is using the elevator when your using the stairs. even if they're like in a wheelchair. they're still reducing the prestige of the stairs, brah

[(Anonymous)]

Huh? It's not getting mad someone is taking the elevator when I'm using the stairs. How is that any better of a metaphor?

We're discussing people demanding easy modes be put into games where the creators of the games don't want them, not people getting mad that people play easy mode in other games. The Olympics thing was a better example of this, in that the IOC showrunners are the ones who get to decide what to allow into the games they control the structure of. The analogy was not about competition, it was about people who want to change systems that the current creators and participants find meaning in.

If someone wants to put on rocket boots and brag they beat Usain Bolt's time in the 100 meter, they can do that. But that won't be officially recognized or sanctioned by the IOC because that's pretty obviously cheating. Likewise, you can cheat in games easily. Or cheese them in obviously unintended ways. You go for that on your own and it doesn't ruin anyone else's experience. But demanding that the devs in this case acknowledge you or create an official rocket boots league is super entitled.

[(Anonymous)]

Just gonna say, you act like these creators exist in a vacuum. Disabled players aren't on their radar. This isn't some elite game if you can cheese it with exploits and people only care.

Fuck off with your ableist garbage, some of us want to play video games where easy mode is normalized as a whole because of accessibility reasons. But apparently, we're assholes for going, "Hey, this isn't actually accessible because you didn't stop to think about us at all, just your elitist, gatekeeping garbage."

[(Anonymous)]

See, I don't get this.

Some people can't beat Easy mode either, and it doesn't seem like you've thought about them. If experiencing the non-challenging content is the aim, why not ask for Cinematic mode instead of Easy mode? That's the easiest possible bar and everyone gets the story and playthrough without having to do anything. Therefore its truly, fully accessible to everyone.

Where do you set the bar for removing potential challenges, without being ableist? The only place you can put it at is zero.

Which I'm for, personally. Cinematic or Story modes in games would be cool with me. People get those anyway from Lets Plays and streamers. But where does Easy fall in this? If accessibility is your concern, what about the people who can't beat Easy?