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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-20 06:29 pm

[ SECRET POST #4518 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4518 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I literally said Americans, lol. That includes Asian-Americans. I'm just saying, no one from the culture that should supposedly be offended ever is.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
So again you’re saying the opinions of Asian-Americans concerned about Asian erasure don’t matter.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Asian-Americans can have opinions about Asian-American erasure. Asians don’t care.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
You know how the entire continent of Asia feels?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
I can tell you, as someone that has lived in Japan, with Japanese people, I can't think of a single instance where American media/fandom/what have you exploded over "Japanese erasure" was something that was echoed by anyone on the Japanese side. As the above anon said, Asian-Americans are more than welcome to be upset about Asian-American erasure, but they have absolutely no right being offended for people who are legit pretty happy that they can share their culture and see it adapted by other people.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
but asian americans are still asian so your original point doesn't make sense and this is a movie made in the country they live in so of course they'd care. You not caring doesn't make them caring silly

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
They're asian in much the same way that irish americans are irish. Them getting self-righteously offended about how their parents' parents' parents culture is represented in media isn't more important than the opinions of the people who are still actually part of that culture.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Not going to touch the "who cares" part, but this is statistically incorrect. Most Asian Americans are either immigrants or had parents who moved to the US from Asia. The ties between the average Asian American and their countries of origin is much stronger than a 5th generation Irish American.

"Asian American population growth is fueled largely by immigration. Natural population growth accounts for a small proportion of the 43 percent increase in total Asian American population between 2000 and 2010."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Asian_Americans#Population

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
SA

So it's more like someone who moved here from Ireland when they were 5, with Irish parents who still identify strongly as Irish, who speaks Gaeilge and was raised steeped in Irish culture as a child, not liking how an Irishman is stereotyped in Hollywood.

Not the same as parents' parents' parents' parents at all.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 07:15 am (UTC)(link)
100% this. As an Irish person, Americans with even the smallest drop of antiquated Irish blood in them are the worst. 'I'm Irish!' No you're fucking not, you’re an American. Being something is more than just blood.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
If the American viewpoint isn't the only correct one, neither is yours. Americans of Irish descent are Irish to other Americans, Americans of German descent are German to other Americans, Americans of Chinese descent are Chinese to other Americans, etc. They aren't those things from the point of view of people from those countries. It's all relative and neither is right while the other is wrong.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
This is the biggest crock of shit i'be ever read.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
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This.

The pov of an American of [culture] descent is not equal to a person of [culture].

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:54 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Even in the case of Asians where they're literally immigrants from that culture that identify as still part of that culture?

I agree with you on a hypothetical person whose great great great great great great grandparents immigrated to the USA in 1700. But someone who literally got off a plane here five years ago is not the same at all?????

Everybody keeps ignoring the fact that minority demographics are different and Asian Americans are, on average, statistically, a group where the majority of them are direct immigrants or direct children of immigrants. Some very rare families have been around for a long time, but when you look at the average Asian American they're less than one generation away from their home country.

An immigrant from [culture] who grew up in [culture] and identifies strongly with [culture] is absolutely still a person of [culture]. And that's what most Asian Americans are.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Damn I didn’t know you knew every other cultures’ opinions. Mind telling me my horoscope then?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 07:39 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

The irony being that the secret and both sides of this argument are doing just that.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-21 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the Internet, where you can read comments andfrom articles from people all over the world. It's pretty useful.