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⌈ Secret Post #629 ⌋

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She is an idealistic but very absent-minded girl that is called a Sue because she has cloud-hair and flower-eyes. She never broke suspension of disbelief, not at any point of the show. People just resent her because she was introduced right after the major bishounen in the show died and became the romantic interest of the main character, who despite being the source of hate or apathy for everyone in the story at that point people loved to pair with the now dead bishounen.

That doesn't tell me much about her in relation to the laws of canon or the other characters' reactions, which is how Mary Sues are determined. Why does she have flower-eyes and cloud-hair? Does her absent-mindedness ever get her in trouble? How and why did she become the romantic interest of the main character?

(Dude, I've seen Pictures of this Kamina character; that's not a bishonen.)

In any case, introducing a new character to take the place of a hugely popular one is bound to make people a bit unwilling to accept her. Yeah, it's unfair, but if she really is a good character, the sane fans tend to get over it sooner or later.

She has cloud-hair and flower-eyes because she was genetically modified to fit her father's desires. She was supposed to be only a doll for him to play and her destiny was to die when he was tired of her. The show is too fast paced for her absent-mindedness to ever have any effect in the narrative, though. It is a very clear character flaw that other characters have to overcome in order to interact with her, though. What gets her in trouble it's actually her idealism, actually. Regardless, she became Simon's(MC) love interest because she became infatuated by his passion and love, she likes his down-to-earth nature. He came to enjoy her company because she was the first gentle and kind person he had ever met, she listened to all of his troubles and he just enjoyed spending quiet time with her. Simon is a socially awkward character without much initiative, so Nia gave him a purpose. They came to love each other because they overcame their demons together. That's basically it.

Oh, and most of the fandom loves her. She is probably among the 4 more popular characters. But as you can notice from the OP, the more "raging" fans of over-genralization don't like to think while watching the show.

Yeah, that doesn't sound like a Mary Sue at all, but a well-developed character.

My usual complaints tend to be that characters fall in love without knowing each other, or even interacting very much. Nia and Simon seem to have a properly built relationship.

I'm not the anon you were responding to before or the OP, but I think the reason many people don't like Nia is because they felt the relationship between her and Simon was a bit forced. Yes, they had a lot of development, but from the moment she showed up it was obvious that she was clearly intended to be the love interest. That might be where the Mary-Sue accusation comes from, even if it is not 100%accurate.

Well, from the oldest conceptual Gurren-Lagann art you could tell Nia was the main heroine. Hell, in the magazine summary published in 2006 at the announcement of the project they even called Nia "a young girl called Nia introduced late in the story, set to be a major main character and Simon's love interest".

She was designed before Viral and Kittan and Genome and the Anti-Spiral existed, even!

Still, if she's clearly a plot robot... though I feel a bit silly discussing this, since I haven't seen a single episode, haha.

Oh, but then every single character in any narrative is a plot robot! They're essentially just mediums to tell the story.

Nia had enough personality, development, quirks and a character arc relevant to the core themes of the narrative to justify her existence.

Oh, but then every single character in any narrative is a plot robot! They're essentially just mediums to tell the story

Well, I'm talking about the generally accepted definition of a plot robot, of course, not disputing the fact that the characters in a story are there to tell it! That's not what a plot robot is. I'm sure Nia has more purpose in the story than being Simon's girlfriend and being a catalyst to his actions.

(I really should watch the anime soon if I'm going to join discussions like this, heh.)

That's not even very fair. From the moment Eureka appeared in Eureka Seven it was obvious she was going to be the romantic interest. From the moment Ai appeared in Planetes it was obvious she was going to be the romantic interest.

I believe the one reason some fangirls will never forgive her is basically taking over Kamina's place as Simon's "love interest" and killing all dreams they could have of a YAOIBUTTSEX relationship between them.

I believe the one reason some fangirls will never forgive her is basically taking over Kamina's place as Simon's "love interest" and killing all dreams they could have of a YAOIBUTTSEX relationship between them.

This. Seriously. I'm so fucking sick of those types of fangirls hating so hard on perfectly well-developed female characters, slinging around terms like "Mary-Sue" and much worse than that, just because they have vaginas, their vaginas like penises, and MY GOD, THOSE PENISES LIKE VAGINAS.

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