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You mean you didn't feel the girl power of a group of 99% secondary characters in their respective movies?

Agreed but that's Disney for you. And corporate empowerment in general.

It was just a fun nod to A-Force. I saw someone mention that the group of girls she brought to see Endgame loved it. They ALSO showed them helping each other in this movie and Infinity War.

I enjoyed it even though it was contrived. Honestly, the battle was one of the few parts of the movie I really enjoyed.

I really don't get the hate for that moment. It was fun, and a reminder of how many awesome women are in these movies.

It felt entirely self-congratulatory was the problem. Like you could almost hear the Russos ejaculating all over it. "Look at all these awesome (second-tier) women!! They are all in one place fighting together! Because women! WOMEN!"

I just felt dirty watching it. Like I was being pandered to by a guy in an alley wearing a trenchcoat and nothing else.

Do you feel that way every time the male superheroes have their big hero moments together?

NAYRT but that seems like a really useless comparison to me because everything about the context, framing, background, narrative, intent, etc is different

That is such an awful comparison. Most of the male characters have their own movies and are the leading role whereas pretty much all the female characters (besides Captain Marvel) are supporting characters. So it's like just put all the female characters in one spot so we can get our "woke" credit.

Please show me a similar scene where every single secondary male character all of a sudden congregates on the same corner of the battlefield to take off in unity. Or better yet where all the PoC congregate on one corner of the battlefield. It's so cringe and tryhard.

Like... no they don't get credit for bunching a group together. How about make more solo films for the characters instead?

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I guess I don't understand the need to exhaust oneself questioning the intentions of a scene that doesn't do anyone any harm and thinking the worst of the ones who came up with it.

Look at it this way. If nothing else, it's a start. Maybe in the next few movies, we'll get more and more scenes where having women teaming up is no big deal.

Yeah it was ok for a 2 second sequence, but when you think about it, it's really lame. GIVE US MORE FEMALE CENTERED MOVIES.

I can see why people are annoyed, but I didn't mind it so much. The battle was one of the parts of the movie that I did enjoy. I do wish Natasha had been there, though.

lmao agreed.
I'm glad so many female characters were in the final battle kicking ass, but that moment was so cringe and tryhard. Like those big corporations that try to post memes on twitter "how do you do fellow kids".

To me it came across very tryhard. I love most of those characters and I liked the various team-ups but smashing them all together in a big shot made it feel very tokenistic imo. It felt more like 'here's the girls! GIRLPOWER!!!" rather than "here's some BADASS SUPERHERO WOMEN DOING BADASS STUFF!!!"

But, hopefully lots of kids liked it!

Ugh, agreed

If Marvel actually makes that scene pay off in the near-future I'll consider it less eye-roll-y.

Agreed.

It also felt weirdly off-balance. The dude heroes get like one or two tag-team mates each. The chicks ALL gang up together to back up the one who doesn’t actually need back up and they basically get nowhere/accomplish all-together what high school spider man did alone/with one teammate.

It felt like the skeezy guy at work stopping by the desk of the only woman in our office, whom he just spoke over at the last meeting, and loudly saying “I totally think women can do this job too. Almost as good as men can! ” and walking off all proud of himself.

lmao

So you think men everywhere were patting themselves on the back because of this scene? I assure you, they were not. In fact, a good number hated this scene just as much as apparently everyone here, but for different reasons.

No, I thought the guy who put the scene in the movie was patting himself on the back.

I thought it was hilarious because ultimately, it was "ALL THE GURRRLS!!... and Peter". Which reminded me of a play figure set I saw at Disneyland: a set of all the Princesses... and Peter Pan.

The thing I really disliked about it is the absurdity that somehow almost every named female character on the field was in the same area at the same time, and free to join the group rather than being locked in battle like everyone else was. It was orchestrated to the point of stupidity.

The woke, pandery aspect was also kind of a thing, yeah.

Contrived is a good word for it.

I felt no good girl power vibes just frustration with the whole "you all just happened to be standing at this exact spot of the battle field when she said that line, huh?".

It just felt like they wanted woke points for a 2 second shot when it took them over a decade to even consider a female lead and the first, what, third of MCU's representation of women was trying to get Scarlett's boobs and ass in the same shot.