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⌈ Secret Post #4521 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Venting Thread

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a sound argument because it's not a stranger living in your house, it's a stranger living in your body. AYRT's organ donation analogy is much closer to the actual reality.

You can, barring medical complications like infection or hemorrhage, survive donating a lobe of your liver. Over time, it will grow back and you'll be able to able to function at full capacity again. You have to stop drinking and using certain medications for a few months. It's not a perfect one-to-one for pregnancy - donors actually have a lower mortality rate than women giving birth, and both the recovery time and necessary period of unmedicated sobriety are much shorter than a pregnancy - but it's close on many of the key points.

And I guarantee you that the vast majority of pro-lifers would not be remotely in support of a law that mandated they be living liver donors for strangers for whom they were a donor match, and the percentage would only shift a bit if you narrowed it to mandatory donation to blood relatives. Their bodily autonomy is more important to them than other people's lives.

Re: Venting Thread

[thewakokid]

I'll keep the organ donation argument in mind, it has merit, I agree, but I feel I'm gonna run in to the same problem I have with the stranger in the basement argument: It's not exactly the same situation because in the case of pregnancy the person is partly responsible for the existence of the life's very existence.

Like if I made a stupid decision - drink driving for example - and it lead to someone needing a liver donation, would I support a law that forced the driver to have to give up a lobe of their liver to ensure the life of the victim?

Yeah... I kinda would. Again I have some wriggle rom because it's not the exact same situation because DUI is illegal, but the thrust is still the same, isn't it? Make a decision that leads to someone needing a liver donation - You should have to make that situation right and yeah, donate a some of your liver if you can.

Re: Venting Thread

[(Anonymous)]

If you made a perfectly reasonable everyday decision like driving completely sober, driving safely, and got into an accident that resulted in another person being injured in such a way that they required a liver donation, would you support a law that forced you to give up a lobe of your liver? Because having sex is a pretty normal everyday activity, not a deliberately negligent high-risk one.

Or, more germane to the argument that a pregnant woman is partly responsible for the existence of the fetus, would you be in favor of a law that would require you to donate a lobe of your liver to your biological child? You're partly responsible for their existence, and you're also partly responsible for the genes that increase their chance of liver disease.

And, since abortion restrictions only impact people who have a uterus, would you be okay with this hypothetical liver donation law only being applied to people who were born with testicles? If it aids the thought exercise, let's pretend that we have some new science that proves only people who were born with testicles can successfully do live liver donation.

You're always going to run into the same problem, no matter the argument you attempt, because there is no perfect analogy. There is no other circumstance under which one human being is entirely physically dependent on one single other human being for all of their physical needs, to the detriment of that other human being's health and ability to fully participate in their own life.