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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-23 06:30 pm

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Re: Venting Thread

(Anonymous) 2019-05-25 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry you're running into so many unreasonable pro-choicers. I don't know if anything I type will help in your debates, but here goes.

For me, personally, the emphasis is on the "choice" part. I don't know if you're on a similar wavelength or not, but I believe that it should be a woman's choice, whether it's to get an abortion OR refuse live-saving cancer treatment to try and bring the pregnancy to term.

I know this won't be relevant for you, but to help illustrate my point, the only circumstance under which I would choose an abortion is if the baby is incompatible with life. I'd rather the child not suffer with a body that will not support its soul in any way, shape, or form. In every other case, I'd go the adoption route (raising the child myself is out of the question since I need professional help taking care of *myself*).

However, I would fight tooth and nail if someone tried to force me to have an abortion in any other circumstance (like they did in China under the one-child policy). So what right do I have to insist a woman who doesn't want to carry to term do so?

Another point to bring up: Why is an embryo inside a woman more worthy of life than those kept in cold storage? Why is it all right for couples going through IVF to do "selective reduction"? Those are already-conceived babies, by the typical pro-life definition, and are destroyed all the time with not a peep from the pro-life contingent. Most pro-lifers I've run into have no answer for that.

As I said, don't know if any of this helps, but I promise there are still sane pro-choicers out there.
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Re: Venting Thread

[personal profile] thewakokid 2019-05-25 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
Appreciate it. And the anons up thread. It's good to have a sounding board for this stuff.

For me, it's mostly a libertarian argument: I don't want the government mandating what I allocate my resources on. I wouldn't accept the government telling me: "You see that person on life support that you don't know? You are now responsible for paying for their life support and keeping them alive" I wouldn't accept the government in my wallet even if it's to keep a life alive, so I don't see why it would be any different for a woman body.

The IVF point is an interesting idea. I hadn't considered it before, so I'll think on that and see if I can find any flaws with it, but it looks solid to me.

Anyway, I do appreciate it, and I know there are sane pro-choice ppl, I consider myself to be one. It's good to meet others.