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(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh man, I haven't read this book in... well probably since it came out (I would have been 14), so I don't really remember it at all, but I do recall that the only good thing about the movie was Hugh Dancy being oh so pretty.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
the only good thing about the movie was Hugh Dancy being oh so pretty.

When I read this I thought you were somehow confusing Blood and Chocolate (which I know nothing about) with Ella Enchanted. Lol. Turns out there's another shitty movie in which Hugh Dancy being oh so pretty is the best part.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, Cary Elwes being over dramatical was the best part of Ella Enchanted to me, lol.

But I did enjoy the book!

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I read the book when I was 12, and loved it. But the movie? *shudders* I mean, there are bad movie adaptations...and then there's Ella Enchanted.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
SO PRETTY
Oh my GOD he is so pretty in that movie

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? I want to watch it now just for that.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-27 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
Don't forget Bryan Dick being fairly pretty too.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-28 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
I watched that movie solely to watch Hugh Dancy be pretty.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha~ I remember this book. I tried rereading it awhile back but yeah, it's much different going into it as an adult as opposed to as a teenager. I still love the actual title for it; 'Blood and Chocolate' just rolls off the tongue so well.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I never read the book and I probably wouldn't pick it up now, but I still watch the movie from time to time because it's very pretty and watchable.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god I ADORED this book when I was... 13/14? I actually reread it relatively recently and, yeah, not so great that time round, but it holds up better than similar stuff I think. I'm still impressed at the agency the main character has in her own sexuality. There's a lot of stuff in it that made me "yikes" a bit reading it as an adult (like, how much older was the older guy? My memory's hazy), but the nostalgia pulled me through.

I do remember being unimpressed by the film since it changed so much.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I remember hearing that the movie completely changed the ending to a more generic one and just...nope.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally. I wondered at the time why they even decided to adapt this particular book if they were going to completely change the point of the ending.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-05-26 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate this book so, so much. Fake-out love interest is a human who thinks he likes werewolves. He learns that MC is a werewolf, and he tries to murder her. MC gets together with a werewolf, because humans will never understand werewolves and will always fear them. Author, have you forgotten that you’re writing your book for an audience of humans who presumably don’t want to murder werewolves?

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was at least a unique take on it. Every other human love interest (or protagonist) is just 100% a-okay with it and first love is always only love. I didn't think the takeaway was that ALL humans will always fear werewolves, but that it was a reality that couldn't be ignored, and being with someone who actually understands ALL of you and not just the parts they like is important (not that I liked the end ship, but I got what she was going for with it)
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-05-26 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe I’m contradicting myself here, but it didn’t seem like the werewolves had much worth understanding. The only two likable characters were both werewolves, so clearly it wasn’t an inherent werewolf thing, but all of the characters who bought into the idea of an immutable werewolf culture turned out worse for it. In fact, one of the likable characters was straight-up murdered by his friend for stupid reasons, and it was treated as okay because that was werewolf culture. And the other pushed back against werewolf sexism, and she ended up humiliated because sexism was werewolf culture and she couldn’t change it. I felt like there was room to find or found a new werewolf culture, something that was healthier than “blood” or “chocolate,” but none of the characters seemed to think
that was an option.

Edit: I just realized this is why I hate Karin and why I hate Native Speaker. (Karin actually goes the reverse route: Karin is so human-like compared to the other vampires, and such a good window into how vampires exploit humans, that in the end she’s forced to live as a human, because vampires will never change for her.) As a supporter of gay marriage, I think the idea of an immutable, inescapable culture can get fucked.
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(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Why is it that people always leap from fucking werewolves and vampires to gay marriage? It's a gross analogy. It will always be a gross analogy.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Principles are often relevant in more than one situation. It doesn't meant that they're literally the same situation, but if you're interested in analyzing and judging the fictional behavior and cultures of fictional worlds, a lot of the same considerations that we use in RL are inevitably going to be in play.

Of course, there's no reason that a person has to do that - if you just want it to be unrealistic fantastical imagination, that's obviously completely valid - but using real-world lenses to look at fiction is not, like, wrong.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Haven't read the book, but this would've annoyed the hell out of me.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
In the end, I'm just like - girl, if kissing a dude reminds you of blood, maybe don't kiss him any more.
Also just generally avoid getting into relationships with people who've tried to sexually assault you in the past. Just a tip.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-26 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Overall, yeah, the writing and story don't hold up well, but I still gotta give it credit for doing something different with the genre (if only a little). The trouble-making Five stayed shitty instead of turning out to have hearts of gold or some bullshit, the end relationship was based on an understanding of one's whole nature (ie both blood AND chocolate), and I also like the commitment to pack-as-family instead of just playing lip service to it; we got to see the community they had.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-27 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I've never read this book, but based on the title and synopsis, teen me would've eaten it with a spoon.
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