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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-29 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4527 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4527 ⌋

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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]


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(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
It depends. Sometimes characters aren't as likeable as you might want them to be and they do bad things, perhaps repeatedly, perhaps annoyingly never learning form their mistakes or having a redemption arc or experiencing growth. There's a point where you have to just accept that a character is a bad person, or at least a deeply flawed person who isn't always going to be in a position to make the best decisions, or even rational, clear-headed decisions.

The occasional screw-up can be more easily attributed to bad writing. It helps if you can tell that the writers didn't think of this as a bad action on the part of a character, or if they admit having written themselves into a corner. If the issue is people calling a character trash because they did one bad thing with no good Watsonion explanation, then taking a Doyalist perspective and refusing to hate the character forever and getting frustrated at people calling the character trash is a completely valid place to be.

My point is, I don't believe Character Does Bad Thing automatically means Bad Writing. It might just mean the writers are intentionally taking the character in a direction you don't like and good writing is not just about getting what you want.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think it's always bad writing for characters to repeat mistakes or never learn but it's also not necessarily good writing or even the point of the writing for character growth that lasts. While we as the audience can get frustrated by the repetition or lack of resolution even if it might not be the point.

Think of sitcoms, children's shows, some longrunning dramas, soap dramas, and more, where character learns a lesson at the end of the day or experience growth, only to apparently get amnesia the next day (or story arc).