[ SECRET POST #4528 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4528 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't think most people thought d&d came up with it af the last minute. They thought it was handled poorly because d&d wanted shorter seasons even though hbo was willing to let the show go on longer, and they ended up rushing everything.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

[(Anonymous)]

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Are you talking about the twenty month gap between season 7 and season 8? I'd expect her to get her season 8 script in 2017, which would be roughly two years from 2019.

Also, I don't see how one actress saying she knew about a twist proves it didn't come out of nowhere. You can be sitting on a secret for years, and you can certainly remember how you felt the first time you learned about it, and how it makes you feel in the time you are keeping it from the public.

[(Anonymous)]

The problem is not that they literally came up with the twist out of nowhere. The problem is that it was executed in such a way that it seemed like it came out of nowhere, instead of being built up to and justified in terms of the portrayal of the character on the show.

[kaijinscendre]

Like....half the fandom expected that twist. The problem was that there was no buildup to the twist.

[feotakahari]

I’ve been seeing posts calling it a “speedrun.” Apparently, the showrunners wanted to finish so they could move on to other projects.

[ninety6tears]

I totally agree with your last sentence, lol. But yeah, when people are saying it came out of nowhere they don't seem to mean they think it was only conceived at the last minute, just badly mapped out in the writing.

[philstar22]

I don't think many people think they actually made it up the moment they started filming season 8. But it appears as if it came from nowhere because it does come from nowhere in terms of plot on the screen. They didn't build it up. They didn't earn it. They didn't make it believable. Doesn't matter how long they were planning it if they didn't make it work.

[(Anonymous)]

They didn't build it up. They didn't earn it. They didn't make it believable.

Someone needs to embroider that shit on a pillow with D&D's faces.

[tabaqui]

I don't watch GoT - what was the 'twist' that everyone hates so much? (I'm roughly familiar with most of the characters - yay, fanfic!)

[philstar22]

Which one? The one the secret is referring to was Danaerys Targaryen all of a sudden going from specifically never killing civilians to specifically targeting civilians and then wanting never-ending war to control the whole world. Basically they went for surprise instead of actual character development. They could have made it work, but they didn't.

[tabaqui]

Wow. Lame.

I hate when the writers/producers/whoever is in charge just stops giving a fuck.

[philstar22]

The thing is, Game of Thrones in the early seasons did surprises and shocks really well. But they thought that they could just continue to do that at the end and not back them up. Earlier surprises they still backed up with characterization and plot to have them make sense. This time they just gave us surprise.

[tabaqui]

Yeesh. That's just too bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Except Dany has always killed civilians. Brutally. You can make an argument for her only killing people she thought were evil prior to the shitshow in King's Landing, but she has never made a distinction between combatants and noncombatants.

[(Anonymous)]

#stillpedantry

[(Anonymous)]

I'm genuinely surprised that people were aurprised/thought it came out of nowhere because I'd seen the leadup to it from the early seasons. I thought it was incredibly obvious that was where her character was going, but I guess not...?

[(Anonymous)]

It's been said before, but foreshadowing is not character development. Certainly the seeds were being planted, but no more than any other character guilty of killing others or having others killed. And then they just went from 10% to 150% in the span of 1.5 episodes instead of letting it creep up little by little until it reached a point where they could afford to give it a believable push.

I might have forgiven it if they had written it so that the other characters expressed deep remorse about basically freezing her out and plotting behind her back, but they all acted like self-righteous little shits to the end for no reason and got exactly what they wanted. Why? Because D&D were bored and wanted to move on to Star Wars (which makes me glad I noped out of the films years ago).

[(Anonymous)]

there was no believable foreshadowing to dany intentionally killing every innocent civilian in sight.

it would have been MUCH more believable to have her kill some innocent civilians by accident while in pursuit of cersei.