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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-05-30 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4528 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4528 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-05-30 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't know they were joining a Nazi offshot. They were traumatized kids who were approached by a kindly authority figure who offered them the chance to save their country.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
That's definitely an opinion.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 01:18 am (UTC)(link)
That's canon.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
It is what happens? Like, in canon.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
What's canon is that they join up with a kindly man from Hydra, a well-known Nazi splinter group, and stay with him well after they realize that they're hanging out with Nazis because their revenge boner is stronger than their desire to not hang out with Nazis.

And all of this is a perfectly acceptable backstory for a couple of complicated characters designed to move from sympathetic antagonist to eventual protagonist, except they aim their "Fuck it -- it's worth being on Team Nazi to get our revenge" angst at the asshole who owns the company that made the bomb that killed their family instead of the assholes who actually dropped the bomb. And that is just stupid. Granted, it's not more stupid than what every other character was pumping out in AoU. But it's not unreasonable to expect people to be smarter than the Avengers in Age of Ultron, as a general rule.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 10:02 am (UTC)(link)
They canonically did not know it was Hydra.

(Anonymous) 2019-05-31 11:38 am (UTC)(link)
DA - Yeah, and honestly, how well-known is Hydra to the general public within the world of the MCU? Weren't they portrayed as a secret division in The First Avenger? And since they operated from within SHIELDS in the modern time, wouldn't they have an interest in staying even more lowkey?