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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-09-29 04:58 pm

[ SECRET POST #633 ]


⌈ Secret Post #633 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-09-29 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Any way you slice it, analyzing and playing in someone else's sandbox is not as much work and is not comparable to building your own. Interpretation has its own virtues, but creation is really, really important.

I thinik you also neglect to consider that fanfic is judged by different standards than original fiction. You have less control and are expected to relinquish authorial control when you're writing fanfic. You're working with a template, and while you can get a feel for things, it's never going to be the same as sitting down and creating something entirely from scratch.

[personal profile] vangirl 2008-09-29 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm...Yeah, I do think I have to admit that I neglected that and kinda shot off from there. The creation part is important as well and takes more actual prep work.

My main point was that on the definition of 'real' writing. Even with original writing, there are people who don't consider sci-fi or fantasy to be "real" writing and I tend to get a knee-jerk reaction whenever someone tries to define any sort of writing as "real" since that value seems to be highly subjective. I think so long as it's written, even if it's the laziest, trashiest thing ever written, it should still count as writing.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-09-30 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I get the same kneejerk reaction because all writing is real writing and if we bring reality into it we're getting into a metaphysical debate. The question is whether or not it's serious writing, which is less objective, and occasionally whether or not it's good, which varies based on criteria.

[identity profile] meagenimage.livejournal.com 2008-09-30 09:03 am (UTC)(link)
Analyzing and playing in someone else's sandbox is not as much work and is not comparable to building your own.

So someone like, say, Norman Davies didn't do *nearly* as much work as an author who made up their own war...?

(Anonymous) 2008-09-30 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
This.

[identity profile] deelaundry.livejournal.com 2008-09-30 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
What about building my own sandbox within fanfic? Do you think that counts as creation or not?

I wrote a 25,000-word story spanning almost twenty years in the POV of an original character, who was the child of two canon characters. It's set a few years in the future, so none of the events in the story took place in canon. I borrowed the canon characters but had to extrapolate how they would respond to circumstances different from any they've ever been in before.

My sandbox in a fanfic. I designed it with the toys I wanted to borrow in mind, but it was still my own creation.

PS. My main fandom is a TV show. Do TV writers hired after the pilot count as developing original creations? They didn't come up with the concept of the show, the setting, or the main characters.
Edited 2008-09-30 18:03 (UTC)