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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-19 06:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #4548 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4548 ⌋

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Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-19 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
After almost two decades, fandom as I know it feels like it has morphed from being a space dominated by women to being a space dominated by afab queer people. I resent it a little.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-19 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused what this means, do you mean straight women vs afab queer people?

Cause lots of afab queer people are women...?

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-19 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean women of all the varieties we come in, vs people who might or might not identify as women any longer, and make a point out of drawing the line between themselves and cishet women.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-19 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
IDK man, that sounds oddly reverse-TERFy to me if that's a thing. Or maybe you wouldn't consider trans women part of the varieties of women either. Full TERF?

I guess as long as you don't mind the boys crying about women invading the fandom boys club and daring to stake out their space in it, you're not a hypocrite.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-19 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you expand on what you mean and why you resent it

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-20 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Back then, people in fandom were overwhelmingly women. A lot of us were queer women, but being queer was never the main point of anyone's presence. Today, fandom is still overwhelmingly women and people who used to identify as women but don't any longer, but it increasingly feels like the majority of them are queer people whose main concern isn't the FEMALE experience but the QUEER experience. That is probably some combination of a natural development and/or fandom's liberal leanings in general, but I can't help feeling like fandom has become a more exclusive sandbox.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-20 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
With respect, it doesn't sound to me like it's less exclusive, just exclusive in a different way.

(I'm also not sure "exclusive" is exactly the right word but I get what you mean)

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-20 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You're glossing over the fact that back then there were a lot of really nasty threads of homophobia running through fandom. People are more vocally out now than they were ten or fifteen or twenty years ago because it's less likely to get them an inbox full of homophobic slurs and occasional death wishes than it was ten or fifteen or twenty years ago.

There's still space for cishet women in fandom, it just isn't all the space in all the fandoms.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2019-06-20 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
It sort of depends a great deal on what you do and where you go. I can't get far enough away from bros whining about loosing their boyzone.

Re: Secrets You're Too Lazy to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-20 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
As a queer woman - I get it, straight people resent me, geez