[ SECRET POST #4548 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4548 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

sure, I'll bite... I admit its a frustrating question, but its not like I can begin to talk about this anywhere but F!S without being harassed, so I might as well. [tho to be fair I don't make it a habit to talk about things I dont like at the BEST of times, bubbline shippers should have their fun w/o me].
Bubblegum has... insulted marceline a lot canonically. Personally if someone made fun of me for keeping a teddy bear, belittled my feelings about it [Sky Witch], somehow made me feel like "not even a person" [What Was Missing], constantly didn't update me about their life/needed me to remind them I exist [Varmints], ignored my pleas to please not start a war because I have trauma with it [finale] all while I have obvious abandonment issues due to multiple parent loss/neglect, well. I would not want to foster a relationship with that person. I love PB as a cold pragmatic 'ends justify the means' girl, but I love Marceline as a secretly very sensitive, emotional, needy girl living alone and singing her diary entries from her eons of loneliness. I'm not sure PB is really sentimental or empathetic enough to actually support someone so profoundly lonely. She's clearly failed before. Why should I believe she won't fail now? Even in 'Stakes' PB takes an overly casual/harsh tone wrt Marcy's trauma ["that jazz was nasty. nasty jazz."] I don't know. I'd feel like the stupid emotional buffoon of the relationship while the other person was always capable of 'thinking rationally'. She's difficult about Marcy's r'ship with Simon in 'Broke His Crown'.
I've watched this entire series dozens of times over and... I don't.... functionally see how they're a good couple. I get that very different people can foster a relationship, totally. I don't have an issue with that. I just couldn't see myself loving someone who acts huffy and is rude about the things most important to me [my music, my history, my sentimental things]. PB can improve but what is her core nature? Someone who doesn't understand Marcy's break-downs, just like her shitty dad. I love both of them, but I don't want them to date. PB is going to get absorbed into her work again and again. It's her nature. I want Marceline supported and loved, I want someone to obsess over her and knock on HER door. I don't want her to... finally, after years of chasing, get this person who could and has already lived without her just fine.

almost all bubbline I see is them braiding eachothers hair and being prep/goth, none of it addresses Marceline's depression, lonliness, sentimentality, pain, trauma.... none of it is working through these constant issues the SERIES ITSELF presents in their r'ship. if people like a 'complicated' queer r'ship, they don't act like it. Everything I see directly conflicts with canon at worst and is boring at best... I don't see actual crunching of the way they interact. I used to ship bubbline at the start of AT, but the canon made me... depressed. It was like seeing bad exes not recognize they're stuck in a loop. As a gay girl, its easy to feel your only choice is the one other gay girl in your town. I wish she'd just bark up another tree.

[(Anonymous)]

I think this is a well-reasoned and deeply empathetic reading of their characters. Suddenly I'M not so sure I like Bubbaline either, wow. I just always rooted for them to get together because of small things like the tee shirt and Marceline even sharing the teddy bear with her in the first place. I think Marceline is such a beautiful and tragic character. I just want all the good things for her and I honestly thought Bonnie could BE those things, but now I'm not so sure. Hrm... (And AYRT btw)

[(Anonymous)]

awe ahaha, thanks for thinking about it. I appreciate it.
You could always rewatch the whole series again and reaccess the relationship, my fav thing to do with anything [usually... to bolster my own HCs, though]. Maybe there are aspects of it that let it give you more hope than I can feel for them.

Marceline certainly believes PB is a good thing for her. I think there's the belief that she could get PB away from her work more often, while PB could foster some maturity in Marceline. But I don't personally think a workaholic gf is functionally going to help all of her abandonment issues... issues PB has already triggered by leaving over and over and favoring her work. If knowing about them didn't make her act with awareness of them then, why now... ?

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you for this perspective. I'll just second everything the other anon said and I'm sorry you've been made to feel like you've just got to support f/f pairings regardless. I hope you have a great day.

[(Anonymous)]

thanks <3 I have lovely days honestly. Fandom has become a more private affair for me over the years. Still, its relieving that I could explain it somewhere and have anyone understand where I'm getting at. I'm not trying to say the series is horrible and problematic, really. Just that I can't enjoy this dynamic.

It's funny how people don't seem to consider that any queer pairing could evoke (a) bad relationship(s) an individual experienced. Being berated for not liking something that you couldn't possibly enjoy with your experiences is sad. I tried quite hard to like them, honestly. I've made a lot of watches of the entire series, trying to see what fanart/fandom is seeing. Guess I just cannot!