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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-23 01:19 pm

[ SECRET POST #4552 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4552 ⌋

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Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
People care too much about how TV shows end. The ending of a show is only 1 episode. If it's bad, it doesn't make the episodes before it worse. I think it's much better to ignore a bad ending and focus on the parts of the show you thought were good all along.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
/shrug Some people enjoy the delicious plate of spaghetti a lot less if they eat it all and find a curly pube in the last bite. The previous bites may have been amazing, but it's silly to suggest to them that the pube doesn't have to put a damper on the whole meal.

The ending is one part, but it's an important one.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
But like... if I found a pube in the spaghetti while I was eating it, that would still bother me just as much as if it was on the last bite...

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Presumably you wouldn't finish the spaghetti if you found the pube early on, though. Save yourself the gross-out. Meanwhile, if you did find it at the end, wouldn't you feel sick for having eaten as much of the pubeghetti as you did, unknowingly?

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Presumably you wouldn't finish the spaghetti if you found the pube early on, though.

But this is where the analogy kind of falls down for me, because generally people don't stop watching a show because S3E3 is bad

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Sure, it's not a perfect analog. I think the point is more that because a final episode is final, it's not the same thing as one bad episode earlier in-- the show still has a chance to turn it around. A bad ending means that's it, it's bad.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-24 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, gross. +1 for the analogy.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
If books and movies don't get a pass on bad endings, then neither do TV shows. And it can make the episodes before it worse, just from a sense of perspective. It can be hard to ignore something that's supposed to be a culmination of something you've watched for years.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
But books and movies are formatted and consumed in a totally different way to TV shows. Each episode and season of a TV show (outside of weird streaming things where every episode gets released at once) stands on its own two feet in a way that every scene of a movie or page of a book doesn't.
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Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-06-23 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That depends on the tv show. Some are purely episodic, some have a show-long arc, and some are a mix of the two.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Even in an entirely serialized show, as long as it airs weekly, individual episodes still need to have their own quality that they can be judged on.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
there are more than enough tv shoes where the ending has genuinely tainted everything that went before

what the ending of skins did to naomi is a case in point; undoing most of her characterisation in order to have her die of cancer? yeah, it makes all her growth and development over her two seasons all for naught

and i WISH i could ignore a bad ending, but i can't - it's canon now and that's the way it is; her story doesn't end with her learning that she IS somebody who's deserving of love, it ends with her dead

so yeah, a bad ending that forces you to reassess all the rest of the show in that context absolutely can make the rest of the show worse
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Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-06-23 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. Some bad endings can be ignored while others ruin the whole show. Like, I still like How I Met Your Mother, I just ignore the final episode. But Bones and House were both tained by terrible finals (and final few seasons) and that ruined the shows for me so I can't even rewatch the parts I used to enjoy.

I haven't yet decided if Game of Thrones has been ruined for me. It is still too soon to tell. But Endgame definitely soured some of Steve's story for me and has made the earlier stuff not as good as it was before.
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Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-06-23 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I still watch House but only up to the point where the show was still good. shrug

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Or a bad ending means you can see the flaws leading up to it you ignored for the payoff you thought was coming???

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you find something confusing about wanting a non-shitty ending? It's not a matter of ignoring what came before the ending. It's about wanting to see a series wrapped up in a respectful way. Can you please everyone? Of course not. But that doesn't mean you drop the ball.

Re: Secrets you're too lazy to make

(Anonymous) 2019-06-23 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Of course you'd rather have a good ending than a bad ending, but I just don't think that the quality of the ending determines the quality of the show.