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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-06-24 06:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4553 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
IMO this is an entirely valid explanation for why it's not a majority Chinese cast. But there should probably still be at least one or two Chinese characters. If Chinese culture is predominant, then it seems improbable that in such a large group of people, no one is Chinese.

Personally, I would love for Simon and River to have been Chinese. I think that would've been an excellent way to marry the "wild west" style elements of the show (which the Firefly crew strongly embodies), with the Chinese-dominant world-building.

I do feel people are awfully quick to call Joss a horrible racist, though. Especially considering Zoe and Book are pretty great characters. I mean, this show was made in, what, 2003? It honestly wouldn't surprise me at all if the network execs had some kind of nauseatingly racist arbitrary cap on the number of non-white main characters they'd greenlight for the show.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, Simon and River, the rich kids from the inner worlds, should have been Chinese. I'm fine with it not being a majority Chinese cast because they're mostly not from very "civilised" places - and in Mal and Zoe's case are actually rebel soldiers - but they did need some.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 06:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't help that the show also reiterates the basic conceptual setup of classic American Western narratives, which are both generally racist and also founded on a specific narrative about the American Civil War which is historically incorrect and racist in specific ways.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that romanticizing the wild west is kind of icky, and insensitive to the pretty horrible reality of what it actually was. However, the wild west elements used in Firefly have never bothered me that much, specifically because it wasn't a historical reality that was being depicted.

(Anonymous) 2019-06-25 07:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with respect to stuff like the Reavers et al, but it still bothers me wrt the central framing of Alliance vs Independents, and how closely and uncritically the portrayal of those factions in the show lines up with the post-Confederate apologist narrative about the nature and aftermath of the Civil War as it ultimately got translated into the Western genre.