[ SECRET POST #4555 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4555 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I thought David Tennant and Michael Sheen did a brilliant job of giving Crowley and Aziraphale character. Sorry you didn't like it, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

I’m not the OP, but for the most part I loved how Sheen and Tennant acted their roles and the additional material Gaiman wrote for them, while still thinking that some of the changes, omissions, and additions to/of other characters’ storylines (not the actors themselves or that some of them weren’t white or cis or male or whatever, that was cool) and spoken lines were stupid and/or unnecessary.

The parts I liked I really liked, the parts I disliked... almost ruined the stuff I loved.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but curious as to the parts you disliked?

[(Anonymous)]

Heh, I’ve already bitched about some of my gripes here. I disliked that there was a narrator—not that she was God, or American, or the actress, just having one in general. I would’ve liked it better if the narration was confined to the episode intros or something instead of random interjections. People have said it was very Hitchhiker’s Guide-esque, and I kind of hated Hitchhiker’s Guide (don’t kill me) and Pratchett’s earliest couple, Hitchhiker-like books like Strata.

I’m torn on actually seeing heaven and hell and so many angels and demons. Much as I love Aziraphale and Crowley, I felt like the rest of the show suffered by comparison to having so much focus on their storyline to the point of introducing their respective bosses/coworkers. I would’ve traded a couple minutes of Gabriel and Beelzebub for more scenes with the Them, or the scenes with the televangelist and/or the janitor, or more with fast-fake-food Elvis.

I hated Adam’s “say what you believe” and the Them’s responses. It felt hokey as fuck.

I hated that Satan showed up and was such a badly done cgi devil. I loved that book Adam was so powerful he wished him away before he actually appeared, but if Satan had to show up, I wish he’d been more human-ish looking and made more of a point to be, well, tempting and seductive, encouraging Adam to fix the world, and not just yelled at him about disobedience until Adam “you’re not my real dad”ed him out of existence.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually liked the narration (but I also like HHGTTG so that may be why, lol), but I can agree with most of your other gripes. They didn't ruin the experience for me but there are definitely parts (like not spending as much time with the Them, or the final showdown which honestly was a little bit like a sad deflated balloon to me?) that I felt could have been done better. :)

[(Anonymous)]

I liked their expanded bits so much too. It just added a bit more life to something I already liked.

[(Anonymous)]

I made the original comment that this secret was made from and actually I liked Aziraphale and Crowley, I thought they were great. It's the entire rest of the cast I thought Gaiman did a huge disservice to. I basically forgot Newt and Anathema existed halfway through the story and the Them were pretty much cardboard cutouts. The latter in particular I think just gutted the show, because it felt like the Them were afterthoughts and all their great moments fell flat to me. If this show was 'The Gay Adventures of Aziraphale and Crowley' I would have loved it, but as Good Omens I thought it lost almost all the heart that made me love the book and I wish someone else had written the script (or that Pratchett was still alive to rein in Gaiman's bad habits).

(And if I'm feeling particularly uncharitable, part of me also feels like Gaiman gave in to 'what the fans want' and basically made it the Gay Adventures of Aziraphale and Crowley, not caring that doing so meant everyone not Azirapale and Crowley would get the shaft but hey, who cares, the fangirls are happy.)

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Idk, the book has all the characters pretty well written, and yet, it remains in memory mostly as the (not actually _that_ gay) adventures of Aziraphale and Crowley, even for those who aren't remotely into slash. They are not plot-relevant, there aren't more scenes with them in the book than with all the rest of the characters, but they are the most memorable. Which is why, I think Gaiman decided to concentrate on them, rather than all the characters in the same time. People (not just fangirls) would've remembered Aziraphale and Crowley best in the show, anyway.
Saying that, I do agree that Adam and the Them could've been done better.