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[ SECRET POST #4556 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4556 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Kansas City Bomber, K.C. Carr and Lovey Sanford]

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[Michael Sheen as Aziraphale in Good Omens]

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[Taylor Swift]

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[Good Omens]

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[Reboot: The Guardian Code, Parker and Trey]

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If you have a problem with the people kissing her ass, take it up with them. I wouldn't have even know about this is not for this secret. You're fighting this issue like it's a personal vendetta, when it really shouldn't be much of an issue at all. It's not about being helpful, but more about not making a scene just because someone agreed with you in a way you didn't like. You are just guessing. If you had proof, by all means go at it, I'd be right beside you, but you don't... It doesn't mean you're wrong, but don't go streaking up and down the halls attacking people left and right just because you think they disagree with you. Calling everyone who replied to you a stupid stan, and blocking out anything constructive they might have to say, just makes people take you even less seriously.
And don't pretend you know me. You don't. When you go out of your way to eat scraps just to bitch about them it doesn't mean you didn't put yourself in that position to begin with.

I’m going to assume that was really poor wording because you just implied marginalized people put themselves in a position to eat scraps and not people in power and years of bigotry because if you genuinely believe that LGBT people are eating scraps because they want to or it’s they brought it upon themselves... that’s a hot take if I’ve ever heard one.

And if you didn’t know about the ass kissers than why are you commenting? Clearly my comment is directed towards them. If you ain’t an ass kisser go on your merry way. Otherwise you’re being peak “I’m offended when we aren’t talking about me!!” I never pretended I know you. I said fishers. If you ain’t cishet I ain’t talking to you. You’re the one who decided to take it personal as if I was directed at you when clearly my original comment never was. You inserted yourself in a narrative and got pissed when I responded.

Take your own advice and learn how to read, I meant you. Going out of your way to take offence, and make yourself offended by something that literally has no negative meaning to it is on you, and trying to pretend I'm disrespecting the lgbt community as a whole with one comment you instigated just proves that.

I can only repeat myself so many times, and this has already become extremely redundant. I never even implied I was some hard core fan of hers, literally stated it outright in my second comment, so why is it news now? I asked you one question first of all, and that was 'how do you know she isn't being genuine?', and you still can't answer that, refuse to acknowledge the possibility of yourself being wrong. Deflecting and avoiding the matter doesn't change anything, and no, you didn't say 'fishers'. But i guess you'd know if I was only replying to make things about 'me', since you're clearly diving the boat on self absorption.

First of all fishers was autocorrect of cishet.

You asked me how do I know she isn’t being genuine. I never said I knew she was. I said that it’s not a baseless assumption to believe she isn’t. You are the one who ran with the theory that I think she’s doing hate armies in her spare time. You are the one who refuses to listen to reasons where I said given her past history (using feminism to benefit herself and only herself, profiting off of Kanye’s meltdowns, being silent on trump politics and refusing to condemn nazis) it’s not out of the question she isn’t being genuine. You instead insisted it’s her label controlling her while ignoring the fact that Taylor is no fool. She has clout. She removed herself off Spotify and had no blowback. She is so big debuting at number 2 is considered a flop for her and yet you were the one that said “but her label!” and infantilizing her.

Don’t get all offended when I tell you you’re making it all about but you have the gal to act like you have me all figured out when you can’t read properly and dismiss any valid complaints as “you’re just hurting yourself, take the support and shut up because you have no proof!!” When conversely you have no proof she’s genuine either.

Sure, of course it was.

More than once I said that you had a point with her not being genuine. This is getting exhausting really, my problem is how you go about it, acting like it's true, condemning everyone who says anything against you. Yes. It's bad to jump on a bandwagon for profit, yes, it's bad to pretend to support something when you don't believe in it. Neither of us can claim we know why she did it, that much is plain obvious. We can only go around in circles so many times.
I only stated a fact that the producers get a final say in what is to be produced, that is all. I only meant that you phrase things as if Swift is committing some sort of hate crime by publicly admitting she supports the lgbt community. That it seems that you're looking for some hidden motive that does not need/seem to be there. (ntm that half of what you mentioned here you quoted to be tin hatting) And I don't care about Taylor Swift as a person, or an artist.

We are not going to agree.
Proof goes both ways, and as an accuser, you are in the position to present it.

It actually was but sure okay. Idc what you think of my phones autocorrect because that’s irrelevant.

If you agreed I have a point about her not being genuine then why am I obligated to explain to you why I don’t think so. I provided you with why I don’t think so (and the ones I highlighted aren’t tin hatters. Tinhatting about tswizzle is “everything she did is to get back at kimye/her ex’s and here’s a long list of coincidences she couldn’t possibly know why”) and yet you continue to argue every step of the way because oh no I’m criticizing her way about being supportive.

I said good it’s she supportive. Great. But I’m exhausted with people dismissing genuine criticism of her that she’s not being sincere and you resort to “why are you so angry she’s insincere!! Wouldn’t you rather have support than none!!!” It doesn’t have to be either or. You can acknowledge someone is doing something shady despite doing something good. You seemed to have taken away my message is “fuck her for supporting the lgbt” when my grumption is “huh. Okay. Good you came around but that’s some suspect timing and it’s easy to see why she’s getting backlash and it’s not entirely undeserved given your history of staying silent”.

And fine. If you want to play the burden of proof is on the accuser then you prove to me right now that it’s her label that get a final say in everything she does and approves her singles. Except you can’t. Much like I can’t prove her intentions are genuine. You’re just relying on what you know of the record industry like I’m just relying on her past behavior and how she tends to react to negative publicity.

For gods sake Taylor is almost 30. If she can’t handle having think pieces about a song she released having a light political message (positive or negative) than she never should have released it in the first place. Macklemore got a shitton of backlash in an equally homophobic genre and yet no one rushed in to white knight for his well meaning ass like you see people doing for her and his blowback was a million times worse and probably more genuine since he at least had Mary Lambert as a feature.

Dude... no.
All I'll say is, "when my grumption is “huh. Okay. Good you came around but that’s some suspect timing and it’s easy to see why she’s getting backlash and it’s not entirely undeserved given your history of staying silent”. it's that easy... That, right there, is all you needed to say to make your point. It really can be as simple as that. Stop while you're behind, at this point anyways.
Sincere, or not, your 'reasoning' is just a bunch of gossip which does little to nothing in the way of this argument. You say it's good she is supportive? Why not focus on that instead. Make it a point in this ongoing essay of a rampage you're on, and give a little, because you're only swinging at ghosts at this point. You do not need to believe she's innocent, no body said she absolutely was, but do it without frothing at the mouth, and things will go a lot smoother, I swear.

https://www.thebalancecareers.com/what-is-a-record-label-2460614
^ for some deets about how much influence a label has. Not the best of examples, but it get's the point across.

You're a fucking idiot. Go back to tumblr.

If you don’t like my free speech why don’t you go back to breitbart.

SIGH

I salute you for being so patient, decent, and articulate in this thread, anon. You're making great points here, and I whole-heartedly agree with pretty much all of them.

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