[ SECRET POST #4559 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4559 ⌋

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Comments

[nightscale]

I just heavily disagree with the notion that there are no well-written female characters anywhere ever, there's plenty, and if the media you're consuming doesn't have them and that frustrates you then... look for media that does(and maybe stop looking for media recs from m/m fandoms that largely ignore canons like that).

Also even if some female characters are a little shallow and one-note, so what? That doesn't stop them from being fun, why is there this insistence that female characters gotta be better than men to simply be 'acceptable'?

[rosehiptea]

I'm with you. There are good female characters out there, and I can't relate to people who insist that a huge-ass amount of media has no good female characters. Then again I've always been way more interested in female characters than male characters so I'm not saying I'm unbiased here. But I think female characters are held up to much higher standards than male characters are.

All that said, nobody owes me a good explanation for why they don't want to write female characters, or any explanation at all.

[nightscale]

It's honestly such an alien notion to me, that all female characters are horribly written, because no? There's good and bad sure, just like there's good and bad male characters, but women are not universally awful unless all you're consuming is horribly sexist media written by horribly sexist men(and then the obvious answer here is to just stop consuming that kind of media).

Female characters are absolutely held up to much higher standards, and it gets worse when they're not-white as well, it's ridiculous. We can have ladies that are kinda shallow but also just there for fun too yanno?

Yes I can agree on that, no one owes me an explanation as to why they don't care for female characters, whatever. I just absolutely bristle at this very common mind-set that 'they just aren't written well' no, this isn't true and stop twisting yourselves into pretzels trying to argue that it is(because it always ends up coming off as low-key sexist to me, it just does).

[(Anonymous)]

Thiiiiiiiiis so hard. I'm sorry, if all of the female characters in all of the media you're consuming are shit, then you're consuming shit media and need to find some better things because there are tons of well-written female characters out there and they're not at all hard to find.

[nightscale]

There's also plenty female characters out there that are from kinda garbage shows who are just fun! We don't have to be perfectly-written to be enjoyable because then that sets up female characters to an impossible standard that they'll never meet, and I refuse to engage with it.