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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-05 06:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #4564 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4564 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night]


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[Claw/Treasure Planet/Puss in Boots]


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[Yami no Matsuei/Descendants of Darkness]


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(Anonymous) 2019-07-06 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dim in comparison to the book, where it's outright stated that the first impression people consistently form of Aziraphale is "English, intelligent, and gay". TV Aziraphale only ticks two out of three.

I don't know if you've seen episode 3, but Aziraphale keeps getting into stupid trouble that Crowley has to bail him out of. And in the book he studies Agnes' prophecies for days, making notes so complex that only a handful of humans alive could understand them, but in the TV version he finds one prophecy that practically hands the answer to him. These sort of things make him appear not as bright in the show as he is in the book.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-06 06:37 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like Crowley doesn't do stupid things.

That last one sounds more like a "this is a change we had to make because we don't have time to include fascinating montages of note-taking" rather than a "hur hur Aziraphale is a dummy head" thing.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-06 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
It probably was changed for time or other legitimate TV show reasons and not because they wanted to make Aziraphale look like an idiot who couldn't have done it the hard way, but it's about what you show vs. what you don't show. The end result is that the TV version of the character isn't shown doing anything that takes any particular intelligence. It doesn't make TV Aziraphale an idiot, but it also doesn't establish him as smart, and a lot of fans who only saw the show assume, not unfairly, that he's nothing special in the brains department.

For comparison, consider the dove resurrection scene: in the book, it's one of Crowley's least demonic moments and serves to show that spark of goodness in him that Aziraphale talks about. In the show it was changed for scene blocking reasons to Aziraphale resurrecting the dove, and the original function was lost, save for the "it's late" joke. Now, Crowley has other moments of kindness, so that side of him still comes across. But based on what is shown you can't say for certain that TV Crowley would have been inclined to resurrect the dove at all. It's fair to assume he would have based on meta reasons, but equally fair to assume he didn't care based on what is actually on the screen.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-06 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Aziraphale keeps getting into stupid trouble that Crowley has to bail him out of

I like the theory that Aziraphale does it half on purpose so Crowley will show up. Look at how he gets Crowley to clean the stain off his coat.