[ SECRET POST #4565 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4565 ⌋

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[Lion King (2019)]


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[Cassandra Clare]


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[The Witcher]


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[The Liar Princess and the Blind Prince]


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[Dark]


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[That Guy With Glasses/Channel Awesome/ #ChangeTheChannel]


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Comments

Re: Unpopular opinions

[ayebydan]

I don't like throwing my qualifications around but I am a historian and that is just not true. It has been here for centuries. Or certainly in Britain it has. IT fueled the racist missions of the Empire.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

If you are a historian then you sure missed a big chunk of your education if you think racism is based on skin colour alone.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[ayebydan]

I am aware of where it deviates but I am also aware of where other factors and bigotries come into play. Such as xenophobia. If you would like to point me in the direction of other things, I am happy to investigate and further my knowledge.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

The thing that you don't understand: racism and xenophobia are not mutually exclusive. They can exist at the same time. And historically, white people being, yes, racist against other "white" ethnic groups is a fact.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[type_wild]

Ugh. Let me try to re-phrase:

The difference between white and non-white skin colour is undeniably a thing, but until fairly recently, the existence of non-white people was a theoretical for almost all Europeans; they lived in Africa and China and India and were heathens and possibly cannibals.

The common presence of non-white people and the necessity of acknowledging ourselves as racially marked (white) in difference to the others around us is not something Europe has been doing for a very long time. The fact that we were all white didn't stop us from using biology as an argument against whatever out-group we wanted to push down.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Arendt talks a lot in Origins of Totalitarianism about the idea that the conceptual structure of scientific racism only really develops in the 18th/19th century as an intellectual response to the experiences of colonialism and imperialism (looking at people like Gobineau), and that it's fundamentally a different way of conceptualizing identity than pre-modern prejudice and xenophobia. So I think it's true that racism develops *in response* to Europeans encountering and living with people who are markedly difference in appearance (and also, exploiting them and treating them as inferiors).

But that doesn't mean that the actual *content* of race categories consists primarily of skin tone, or that you can't take that structure and apply it to people with pale skin. And in fact, this is what people went and did.

Re: Unpopular opinions

[ayebydan]

I respect a lot of your arguments here. I think a lot of things changed with the so called 'scramble for Africa'. From my readings racism is old as heck but perhaps it was limited to those reading the things I have read. Not a concept the majority looked into ect. Certainly something I am now looking into given our convos.