[ SECRET POST #4566 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4566 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

The way I approach it is:

Per the book, angels (and deamons?) are sexless unless they make an effort, and per Gaiman, Aziraphale and Crowley are not gay in the sense that they are not male humans, but they do love each other. So, sexual orientation doesn't really apply and who is to say what an explicit romance would even look like between these characters. In that light, I would agree that it's not great representation since it's not about what humans experience.

That said, they are two beings who - Word of God - love each other, who definitely appear to be in love with each other, and who have the appearance of male humans and are played by male human actors, and if people see that and like it or find it empowering, then that's cool and I'm not going to rain on their parade because the romance isn't explicit by some measure. Good Omens is a far cry from most of the "It's totally canon" claims about shows where it totally isn't canon.

It's also possible people are responding to the way the show plays with gender presentation among angels, demons, and the Horsemen, as far as LGBT representation goes.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

and that imo is a goddamn cop-out, they're not gay BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GAY, not bc they're not human.

like jfc how is anyone taking these baity white men as rep- oh, that's why...

[(Anonymous)]

Agender and asexuals such as myself are finding representation in it. Sorry they didn't kiss or fuck to prove their love enough to you, but I saw it clear as day.

[(Anonymous)]

you don't have to have characters kiss to prove they're in love, and this show didn't do any of that. sorry you got baited and are trying to make urself feel better about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Well yeah... that's what I'm saying? They proved their love in pretty much every scene with them in it, and through the entirety of their arc. Also, fuck off

[(Anonymous)]

loving one another /= romantic relationship or the depiction of one because there are plenty of movies/tv that have 'love stories' between two characters of the same sex but are 100% platonic.

this is just another one of those and no matter how much you scream that it isn't wont make that true.

[(Anonymous)]

They're not the one I see screaming to make something true here.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a cop out, it's just what the story is about.

[(Anonymous)]

A comparison I've seen a lot, and like, about it is with Shadwell/Madame Tracy: they get about as much "confirmation" of a budding romantic relationship (much less, come to think of it!) as Aziraphale and Crowley, but as they're a man and a woman, nobody has any problem reading it as explicitly romantic.

If we're judging the two relationships in a similar way as viewers, we can't say one is more canon than the other, but they are both equally implied.

I know that obviously not all viewers are going to go in and actually make that comparison, but it's an interesting one.

[sabotabby]

^ This, though. I don't think anyone would watch that show and the way the relationship is framed and come away with an interpretation other than that Shadwell and Madame Tracy are together at the end in a romantic and likely sexual way. Even though they're never shown to kiss.

If anything, the sex scene between Anathema and Newton felt gratuitous and out of place tonally to me.