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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-07 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #4566 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-07-07 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, though, I feel the same way about Ten's seasons as I do about his character. They are overrated. Moffat was just a better showrunner. The writing was better. The stories were better. RTD had some serious issues. They didn't show as much during 9's run, but they really came out with 10.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2019-07-07 10:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I do like some of the things RTD did but he was just as guilty as what fans often throw at Moffat as an accusation. There's nothing as self-indulgent as Ten's last story where I felt like it was RTD saying goodbye more than Ten or indeed David. I really really can't stand Ten's last episode.

I think this is why I mostly ducked out of the fandom. It felt like you either have to love RTD or Moffat and hate the other but there's no middle ground. They both have good points but they're also both infuriating.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-07 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish I knew more people like you in the fandom. It became such a fad to bash Eleven and Moffat that I withdrew from the fandom entirely just so I could keep enjoying the show in peace.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-07 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't want to get into the Moffat RTD wars again - at all - but acting like Moffat didn't have egregious issues as a showrunner as well is completely abusrd

(Anonymous) 2019-07-08 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
No one ITT said he didn't, just that they prefer his stuff.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-08 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
The post I was replying to literally said that Moffat was just a better show runner. That's not a preference thing, that's a "Moffat is better" thing, which they justify on the grounds that RTD had some issues that came out during the seasons with 10.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-08 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What part of that says he didn't also have issues, though? Him being a better showrunner doesn't negate his problems, nor do his problems make RTD's less egregious.