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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-10 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #4569 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4569 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-07-10 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yes. Not a fan of the Hobbit movies myself. This secret was made in response to an extremely smug Facebook post about how wrong Tauriel and Kili were for ruining the first and only dwarf and elf friendship.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-11 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but while I don't think it ruined it - even though in terms of the movies, it felt forcefully redundant - it does change the motivation of Legolas. Because now he's learning someone else's lesson about being friends with dwarves, since he watched Tauriel do it.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-11 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
My point is if you are going to be rude to movie fans, at least get canon right. I don't like the movies or Tauriel. But Legolas and Gimli are not in any way the first friendship. And these particular fans act like they are the gatekeepers of the Tolkien fandom when they haven't read past LOTR and Hobbit and it is ridiculous.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-11 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ehh, the movies are their own thing, so I'm not sure why saying "in the extended universe of Middle Earth it happened even more!" is a great argument to feeling like its portrayal wasn't cheapened. It just feels kind of irrelevant? And Tolkien himself can certainly be accused of thematic redundancy, too.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-11 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
That does make it weird to me, but I put the hobbit movies and LOTR in separate universes.

(Anonymous) 2019-07-11 04:00 am (UTC)(link)
and according to the screenwriters, Kili/Tauriel turns Legolas into a dwarf racist even though he was far more racist to dwarves in his first minute in The Hobbit films than the entirety of the LOTR movies.