[ SECRET POST #4584 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4584 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean yeah, but.

The Lion King musical has people who are obviously humans dressed as animals, 'cause in a musical theater setting there's only so much you can do. They're supposed to be lions, and the audience gets the idea.

The Lion King CGI movie has animals that can talk, because in a movie setting with voice actors you can do a whole lot more, and they don't have to look like humans wearing skin tight costumes.

The Cats CGI movie could do that too. They had humans wearing skin tight costumes because those were the limitations of musical theater. It doesn't change that they're supposed to be cats and could just be cats.

[(Anonymous)]

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[(Anonymous)]

Woah woah woah no way.

Cats is a show that MUST be performed by actors. Dance is a HUGE element. It's practically a ballet. The human acting and movement is literally its selling point, besides the actual singing. Making it CGI would be to strip it of its artistry. No, fuck no.

[(Anonymous)]

CGI characters can dance... you can map CGI to human movements... it's 2019. How do you think they made other CGI movies with humanoid characters in them? They even motion captured Benedict Cumberbatch's facial movements for Smaug. The tech is there.

They could just make cartoon cats that stand upright and use motion capture on real people, the solution is much simpler than you think.

[(Anonymous)]

But is pure-CGI dance actually, like, impressive and meaningful? I feel like dance, out of all the art forms on earth, is the hardest to translate to CGI b/c so much of it is about the human form in motion.

[(Anonymous)]

If you're motion capturing from humans, it's not pure-CGI animation. Besides, is CGI furry cat suits with human faces - with actors really obviously not doing their own dancing, and you can tell that from the trailer - any more impressive and meaningful than motion capture? Because that's where we're at right now.

If you want to translate dance to the screen, they could just play a video of the live action musical, right? No point in making the new movie at all.

But since they are making one, and it's not going to be live-action, and we're discussing how it could be better while leaving uncanny valley behind, here we are.

[(Anonymous)]

But motion capture still doesn't get the physical tensile quality of human motion, of muscle moving in space.

Didn't they specifically get an elite ballerina for one of the dance-heavy parts because they wanted to showcase that?

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, she's the white cat you see a lot of.

[(Anonymous)]

Literally the CGI is to make the costumes furrier and eliminate seams. They've discussed this. The rest is costuming.

[(Anonymous)]

This is such an appalling idea, haha. I'm sorry, but Cats is the longest running Broadway show because of its human performers, costumes (of which the movie seems to have just added a little extra CGI to), and dancing/musical numbers.

If you're not the kind of person who wants to see that, you probably wouldn't have enjoyed it as a musical in the first place. That's fine. But Cats absolutely has to be human performers if it's going to maintain any semblance of its own legacy. To wash it down with CGI is blasphemous.

[(Anonymous)]

Dancing CGI cat-cats just look weird, even in 2019. CGI, even with mocap, isn't perfect to what Cats does. A lot of it is subtler movements.