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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-07-28 03:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #4587 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4587 ⌋

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Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
But you really can't deny all the shady and shitty things he's done, can you? You can like him just fine, but that doesn't make him a saint.
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Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-07-29 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I never said he was a saint, and (unlike some celebrities) he never tried to pass himself off as one. And what are all these things you say he's done but won't say what they were?

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
LENNON: It is a diary form of writing. All that "I used to be cruel to my woman, I beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved" was me. I used to be cruel to my woman, and physically -- any woman. I was a hitter. I couldn't express myself and I hit. I fought men and I hit women. That is why I am always on about peace, you see. It is the most violent people who go for love and peace. Everything's the opposite. But I sincerely believe in love and peace. I am not violent man who has learned not to be violent and regrets his violence. I will have to be a lot older before I can face in public how I treated women as a youngster.
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Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-07-29 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
he was violent in his past but he knew later it was wrong and publicly said so. did the last three sentences of what you wrote yourself escape your notice? have you ever done things you regretted later? I know I have. And, no, I'm not going to tell you what they were.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
If you're willing to forgive him for hitting women because he said that he knew it was wrong, that's your prerogative, but I don't know why you're acting confused about why someone might consider him a piece of shit.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 06:06 am (UTC)(link)
I think the AYRT is really painfully young.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
John is not my favorite Beatle but even this quote makes it sound like he's acknowledged and repented his past actions.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
This may be something he said, but he never really stopped abusing his wife and child. Lennon is a notorious liar.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

The dude literally said he was more popular than Jesus, I'm not even christian but yeah he kinda did.
http://www.beatlesinterviews.org/db1966.0304-beatles-john-lennon-were-more-popular-than-jesus-now-maureen-cleave.html


He beat his wife and children, that song that is completely overplayed at Chiristmas time was written to try and guilt his son to come back to him after he'd escaped his abuse. That comment was one of his many hypocrisies because he never stopped, he just wanted control.
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/ypa9b5/you-dont-have-to-imagine-john-lennon-beat-women-and-childrenits-just-a-fact

More Here:
https://beatlesarama.com/these-shocking-true-stories-prove-john-lennon-was-actually-a-terrible-person/

He had no clue about politics, never did anything for them, the reason most people think he did was because he was often photographed with 'revolutionaries' of the time.
Mentioned here + includes a bunch of other reasons:
https://listverse.com/2012/05/12/top-10-unpleasant-facts-about-john-lennon/


And many more. Can you tell me why he might be a good guy, or rather, give me a good reason why he isn't a complete piece of shit?
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Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

[personal profile] greghousesgf 2019-07-29 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't trust some of these sources at all, and I have no respect for christianity or religion in general so I don't care about the more popular than jesus thing.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
How about some actual quotes then?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4713954/Dad-was-a-hypocrite.-He-could-talk-about-peace-and-love-to-the-world-but-he-could-never-show-it-to-his-wife-and-son.html

Another fun fact is that I had a literary teacher who knew him vaguely, and in college was asked to find the meanings in some of his songs. He asked Lennon what his thought process was when writing them, and his response was something like: If you figure it out let me know, because I wrote that on three different acid trips, so hell if I know.

I do not like John Lennon, these are things that come up first on a search because I'm not about to spend hours verifying every source. Though I know that while they might seem somewhat clickbait, there are sources within them which do verify the facts. He was a useless, abusive, drug addicted glory seeker.
The Jesus thing came first because you said that he didn't claim to be a saint, and I guess you were right, he actually claimed to be better than one. You don't need to respect religion to see what a self absorbed, egotistical thing that is to say. You can't be that blind.
My secret is about how shitty he is yes, but also that even if he actually was everything he said he claimed to be, he still wouldn't deserve the type of reverence people give him. You asked for why I thought that way, I gave it to you. You're kinda just proving my point on how infallible people think he is by complete disregarding them without a second thought.

Re: Secrets You Can't Be Bothered to Make

(Anonymous) 2019-07-29 07:17 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, fuck right off and be respectful. You're doing what Vic stans are right now because you like the guy. But then, you think House was a great person and not at all an asshole who needed to be put in his place early on.