[ SECRET POST #4594 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4594 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

The animation? Seriously? The animation for the skating routines was absolutely abysmal and everything else was ok but not great (first episode was gorgeous, though). The art was good, but the animation... not so much.

[(Anonymous)]

A boring pairing indeed.

[(Anonymous)]

Wanting fluffy, sweet m/m devoid of angst and conflict doesn't preclude finding a given example of fluffy, sweet m/m devoid of angst and conflict duller than dishwater. Specifics are important.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like the one of the few that found Viktor/Yuri very boring. It was like every fluff fanfic couple dynamic with very little to make it unique.

I kept waiting for something epic or dramatic to happen to make it truly memorable... but it was constantly minimalistic. Even that big "kiss" was such a cop out because it looked like they didn't want to fully commit to showing one man's lips on another.

[(Anonymous)]

I, for one, mostly took issue with how said "romance" happened entirely off-screen. FFS, at no point is a relationship between the two of them discussed as something else than the setup to a "no not like in a gay way"-gag.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, no. That show/pairing was super boring. I watched the entire thing but there wasn't anything to hold on to. I did like the other Yuri a lot. He seemed like the only one with a personality.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I don't even get why it's so incredibly popular tbh

[(Anonymous)]

No way. The opposite was true. Japanese Yuri was realistic with an awesome personality. Russian Yuri was an obnoxious anime trope.

[(Anonymous)]

IA, Russian Yuri was an asshole and not in a good way.

[(Anonymous)]

I Just couldn't get in this anime. I watched the first 3 episodes with a friend that lives and got really into this fandom. I normally love sports anime/manga but I didn't found the characters or ships interesting

[(Anonymous)]

i'm someone who ships happy 'unproblematic' ships for the most part and even i found these two to be really dry and flat, and for how gay the show was supposed to be it never actually felt like it wanted to fully commit to it. which was just weird and kind of irksome tbh.

[(Anonymous)]

Man. A lot of y’all don’t understand how revolutionary this show was. It was one of the first, and so far the biggest, to have a main same-sex couple in a show that not a romance anime for one and never gave a HINT it would be anything more than the slashy subtext often found in sports anime.

Also you sound like the people whining about it not being realistic that Victor wasn’t shunned or arrested by Russian authorities after kissing Yuuri on international television. Where you aren’t seeing the emotion and buildup I don’t know. Episodes 9 and 10 were game-changing.

Plus, as was said: this isn’t a romance anime. It’s about the Yu(u)ris. The very first trailer even says it’s a tale of two Yuris. I’m sorry that the couple who isn’t the real point of the show (though an incredibly Important part) didn’t get the fleshing out you wanted in this show that’s about struggling to find out who you are and accept the parts of yourself you don’t like.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, when people complain about the lack of homophobia in this show it just baffles me. It's not ~unrealistic, it's just set in a world without homophobia. Because sometimes it's nice to have a queer relationship not centered on the drama caused by homophobia *shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

So we have to like it? Yeah, not how this kind of thing works, thanks

[(Anonymous)]

...imagine thinking that the couple who pole-danced in underwear, kissed on international tv, announced their love for each other on international tv, ran through the airport to embrace each other, traded engagement rings, kissed those rings, pair skated together in matching outfits with those engagement rings on...was boring.

Like what, did you want them to fuck on the ice??? What more could they have done? They did more than your average shoujo romance couple does. They wept and fought and made up and grew better because of each other. We’re we watching the same show?

[(Anonymous)]

Imagine understanding that other people have different tastes to you. Were you watching the same other people?

[(Anonymous)]

The OTT romantic stuff doesn't work because the characters doing them are unengaging and shallow - Viktor far worse than Yuuri, to be fair - and the relationship between them, on screen, remains a constant fog, an amorphous blot of "it can be whatever you want it to be" (word of god, remember). What "development" there is comes across as weird and incongruent to the situation. You can't have both "but it's so natural" AND the pole dancing at a black tie event.

Other people elsewhere have gone into the problems this show has with characterisation and the relationship between Yuuri and Viktor in far more detail than I can be bothered with here. I have no interest in telling people what they should or shouldn't LIKE, but please consider that the show MIGHT, just MIGHT be facing these criticisms because it was honestly badly written.

[(Anonymous)]

Same, honestly.

[(Anonymous)]

This made me think about how people ive seen try and hope anime turns into something they want but anime is someone else's story and they stick to certain boundaries that aren't always seen the same way by others.

I feel like the "story of the two yuris" wasn't seen as such because there were so many characters that did not get any development and were rather static. I feel like it would have been improved upon by adding more time to victor and yuris relationship and letting the audience know how they felt towards one another and showed more buildup and reasons for them both to be into one another. On top of that, shown more of yurio's life and relationships. It felt more like "yuuri and victor and then yurio and everyone else!" Rather than "yuuri and yuri and their own personal relationships they build while living as competitive iceskaters who are coping with real issues such as 'feeling too old to compete while it feels like everyone else is getting younger' and 'feeling too young to compete and be taken seriously'"

The changes made in both the yuri's lives did have an effect on me, but when i bought the soundtrack, the only songs I listened to were yuuri's, yurio's, and victor's songs (yuri on ice, eros, agape, and both versions of stay close to me) because I didnt have any connection or interest to any of the other characters, I feel like that says enough, hahahaha.