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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-05 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4595 ]


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philstar22: (Default)

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-06 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Security guard in court today went off on a second amendment rant today about how it was people exercising their second amendment right who could stop shooters like the one in El Paso. Got him to say he was okay with tougher background checks. But he insisted that people have the wrong idea and that, just like drunk driving is about the person, not the car, massacres like El Paso are only about the person, not about guns. Ugh. Me and another attorney were looking at each other, working really hard not to roll our eyes at each other.

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
In many of these cases, there was nothing stopping anyone from stopping the shooters via exercising their second amendment rights, which suggests that the vast majority of people are *choosing* not to carry a gun most places (assuming they even choose to own one), or at least, if they do chose to carry a gun, choosing not to engage a shooter. Most people clearly don't *want* to have to do that.
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Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-06 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
The evidence shows that it generally doesn't help in that type of situation where people are panicked and scared, may not even know who the shooter is, and just are generally in a chaotic environment. Trained police are better equipped to handle things than a random armed civilian.

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-06 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
That's one of the reasons people choose not to cary a gun or engage. Too difgicult to do any good and it shouldn't be their responsibility in the first place.

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-06 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
by his standards all civilians would have to be trained in military combat in order to properly use their guns to stop the bad guy without shooting anyone else except the bad guy. everyone would have to live in a constant military state of mind.
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Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-06 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
He's a trained security guard at an immigration court. I think he might be okay with that, actually. Or at least if it were the "right" people getting the training and carrying the weapons.

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-06 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
i'd rather not live in a permanent combat zone thanks
philstar22: (Default)

Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

[personal profile] philstar22 2019-08-06 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I completely agree. I'm pissed off enough about the way our police are trained and armed like they are an army rather than a police force.
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Re: What has made you roll your eyes recently?

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2019-08-06 09:10 am (UTC)(link)
A pro-gun group did a recreation of the Charlie Hebdo attack with someone playing an armed civilian. Their attempt was to prove that an armed civilian could have stopped it but actually the only scenario in which the armed civilian survived was when they ran away immediately.