[ SECRET POST #4595 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #4595 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

01.



__________________________________________________



02.


__________________________________________________



03.


__________________________________________________



04.


__________________________________________________



05.


__________________________________________________



06.


__________________________________________________



07.









Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 28 secrets from Secret Submission Post #658.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I feel that the people who are all "Force Awakens just copy-catted A New Hope," are being annoyingly simplistic. Did the movie utilize and play with similar tropes? Yes, it did, but Force Awakens isn't just a copycat, because it used these tropes in a different way.

For example, Luke Skywalker in A New Hope came from a normal, happy family background. However with Rey, it's clearly established that she has been alone for a long time and is used to being alone, a backstory which makes her personality/identity different from that of Luke's. Luke wanted to leave Tatooine, whereas Rey wanted to stay on her homeworld, only giving up on returning later on in the story, when it comes apparent just how high the stakes are; it's not just about delivering this robot and returning home.

Also when the shit hit the fan, Luke had Obi Wan to walk him through and explain things, whereas Rey only had Finn, and he didn't know too much more than she did about what was going on. Obi Wan was a mentor/teacher who could explain all this stuff about the Force to Luke, whereas Finn is more like an ally/partner. Finn wants to help, but like I said, he didn't know too much more about what was going on than Rey did.

[(Anonymous)]

The tropes are not why I personally refer to TFA as a copy though. I can't speak for all others of course, but what annoyed me were the literal copies, like the whole "fly through a trench and dump something in a hole to blow up the big gun".

The first time I saw that scene, with Luke, there was suspense. Of course I knew he would succeed, because SW is that kind of movie, but I was still on the edge of my seat. With TFA the suspense was not there. Not only did I know Poe would succeed, because TFA is that kind of movie too, but I had literally seen it succeed before.

[(Anonymous)]

TLJ copied plenty of scenes from other Star Wars movies as well though.

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but it did new things with them. The references in TLJ were for the most part unique. TFA made references and did the exact same thing with them or mirrored them almost every time.

[(Anonymous)]

Except it wasn't really unique at all.

[(Anonymous)]

DA It honestly isn't that different. Large chunks of the structure of the movie are the same between TLJ and ESB. The Rebel fleet flees Imperial/First Order retaliation from Hoth/D'Qar. Luke/Rey are on Dagobah/Ahch-To seeking the old Jedi master Yoda/Luke to teach them/join the effort, but the old master is struggling with history/isolation/perceived guilt over allowing the current Dark Sider to come into being. During the movie, Han-Leia/Finn-Rose go to meet an independent shady ally in Cloud City/Canto Bight. Said ally promptly betrays them (though DJ had nowhere near the pathos and panache of Lando doing it).

Admittedly, Luke doing his Obi-Wan moment in the second movie rather than the first was a slight change, but not that much of one. And Kylo overthrowing Snoke is a semi-decent twisted version of Vader killing the Emperor. But honestly, a lot of the story points are beat for beat from the original trilogy even in TLJ. It's not doing that much different.

[(Anonymous)]

I remember when TFA came out and everyone complained about what a carbon copy it was. And then TLJ came out and suddenly TFA was new and innovative? Sure.