[ SECRET POST #642 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #642 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: 141

[(Anonymous)]

The existence of a het couple is not.

However, implying "this (homosexual) couple should be taken apart and recast to pair up and become a (heterosexual) couple" reinforces the view that the "better" couple is the straight one. Yes, likewise, reversing it reverses that -- implies that the "better" couple is the gay one. However, implying that straight is better than gay falls into the dominant heteronormative societal expectations, while the other suberts it. It doesn't mean, technically, either couple IS better, but it's like -- it's the same problem as making a strong independant female character a housewife in post-series fic or whatever. There's nothing wrong with housewives, but it plays into the image of the housewife as the ultimate fate for all women everywhere, aka, is antifeminist. The fic itself might be great, and it might be an awesome read, but it still falls into that social dialog. Regardless of the things you listed there, breaking up a canon gay couple to put them into heterosexual relationsihps plays into the heteronormative dialogue, while breaking up a canon straight couple steps away from that heteronormative dialogue. It may not SUBVERT heteronormativity, depending on things like the questions you asked, but the fact still remains that it's different.

It's not ridiculous. Yeah, if you rephrase the question to "the existence of a het couple", but that's not the problem here. It's the choice to break up the prior relationship to recast it -- they talk in different ways to the dominant dialogues of heteronormativity. And if they talk in different ways, it's different.

Re: 141

[paperclipchains.livejournal.com]

I've heard all of that before and I think the best way to respond is to just say that I don't believe it. That explanation ignores the context of shipping and fanfiction, the context of relationships, and assumes that slash is politically conscious more than it is fetishization of homosexuality - and fetishization isn't subversive.

Re: 141

[cuziambadass.livejournal.com]

oh, I get that. believe me I do. problem is, that's still a very broad generalization. people often assume that when a FANfiction writer break up a gay relationship to write het she/he reinforces cultural heteronormativity.

I've always heard that accusation, always... never mind that the writer is gay or bi her/himself! or that they are straight but prefers slash way more than het.

so yes, even though I believe it may be justified, when it comes to shiping and fandom in general it IS hypocritical and unfair.