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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-09 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #4599 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4599 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


[Spoilers and content warnings ahead.]





01. [SPOILERS for Jessica Jones season 3]




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02. [SPOILERS for Orange is the New Black]



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03. [SPOILERS for Good Omens]



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04. [SPOILERS for Endgame]



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05. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault, dub/non-con]



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06. [WARNING for discussion of rape/assault]



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07. [WARNING for discussion of rape, pedophilia]

















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(Anonymous) 2019-08-10 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
Seconding that it wasn't meant to be a happy ending. The message wasn't that Thanos was right, or that Thanos was deserving, or that the Avengers in any way deserved to lose. The message was basically just, "Sometimes the bad guys win." Sometimes defeat is so immense and so crushing that you literally cannot fathom losing - and sometimes they win even then.

(I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen more media do the "bad guys win" thing, in the wake of the last US election.)

(Anonymous) 2019-08-10 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT Cool, I understand bad endings happen. I actually thought the ending itself was bold and a good move. I'm just commenting on the narrative thread that I noticed for that movie and how it conflicts with the narrative thread given in Endgame. And, again, the "reward" I'm talking about is the Soul Stone, not the ending.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-11 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
This very thread is reminding me of the issues i had with both IW. The OP above who stated sacrifice was somehow associated with winning and love was associated with losing couldn't have stated it better. I understand that IW was about Thanos winning, but it was so dark and depressing all the way through. I knew something was wrong from the beginning with the distress signal from the Asgardian refugee ship- who had already lost most of their people in Ragnarok. Then Loki and Heimdall were brutally killed and again it just set a weirdly depressing and dark tone- I'm saying this loving dark movies. But to me it was weird in a superhero film (Yes, of course the Christopher Nolan films are pretty dark, as was Winter Soldier, but they don't tend to have people strangling people to death or throwing them off cliffs). They tried to have moments of levity but to me they were out of place with all of the callous murder and brutality.
I believe it would have worked better if they'd kept it lightish all the way through and made it out that you think the heroes are going to win and then the pow of him winning hits (just like with the US elections, where polls had Hillary winning and then Trump came from nowhere and won).