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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-18 03:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #4608 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4608 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Lucifer]


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[Emma Watson as Meg March in Little Women]


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[Tales of Zestiria]


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[The Irishman]


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[Yuri!!! On Ice]


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[Outlander]


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[Kaibaman, Yu-Gi-Oh GX; Griffith and Femto, Berserk]


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[So You Think You Can Dance]


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[Silmarillion]



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[The Hobbit]











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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No accounting for taste, I suppose.

I felt like red-lining the first twenty pages I managed to forge through. Blech.

Yes it was written by a kid, but it looks like it was edited by one too.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Because a child has the experience of an adult and is going to magically edit to meet your taste. I guess we can’t let kids write ever.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Published books generally have had other people look over them before final printing.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... not what NAYRT was saying (from what I understand).

Anon is willing to let some things slide because the author was a teen, but it still was published by adults and thus should have been edited properly like any adult book.

No one hands John Grisham's books to a 12 year old and says, "Hey, edit this okay."
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2019-08-18 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
lol

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it fun, being this ridiculously dramatic?

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, kids can write all they like. Publishing it with minimal/bad editing however... not a good idea.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, I knew someone that published with very little editing and her book sucks so bad. It's boring. The book is Violent Violet.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
It wasn't like it was the first draft that his parent self-published - and he was around 18 by then so the hype that it was written by a kid was overblown imo.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I bought the first book at the airport before a 14 hour flight. I regretted it the whole way, and never read the others. Admittedly, I wasn’t the target audience, since I was an adult, but I remember abandoning book series because they felt like ripoffs of better stuff back in my teens, so I dunno if I would’ve enjoyed them more even then.

It felt almost like someone had stuck Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and The Dragonriders of Pern in a blender and published the result. And I honestly can’t tell if the only reasons some bits didn’t seem like bad expys/ripoffs is because the other canons being blatantly copied from and badly blended in were things I’m not familiar with, or if there might have been a few original fragments in there somewhere.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2019-08-18 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I’ll give it credit for one thing: the scene where Eragon tries to cast a spell from a distance, drains most of his power, and openly admits he screwed up. A lot of YA protagonists would try to deflect the blame. But I can’t give it credit for much else.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Gonna have to take your word for it OP

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought the first book was pretty good, for a teenager. I still couldn't get through it all because "good for a teenager" isn't the same as well written, period.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. If my nephew wrote something like this in highschool or younger, I'd be impressed and I'd praise him and encourage him to keep writing. But IMO, the first book was well below the level I'd expect for professionally published work. It's very derivative and needed editing - which is absolutely to be expected from a teenager's first novel!

But I don't think it was a good book in the sense that it was well written with good plot, characterization, world building, etc. I think it got as far as it did because it had a marketable gimmick in its young author, and because like Harry Potter or Twilight, it attracted a larger, less discriminating audience of readers than the average YA fantasy attracted at that point in time.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Every time I see this title I can't help but think "I am the dragon Eragon, and these are my siblings Fragon and Gragon".
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[personal profile] morieris 2019-08-18 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It took me 7 years to finish the last book.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-19 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I actually quite liked the first one, didn't get the hate. Second one...I'm still bitter about Murtagh (who I liked more than Eragon, especially in the movie!) turning evil, so I don't think I ever got to the third.
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[personal profile] morieris 2019-08-19 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I love book 2 tbh I liked all that traveling through Du Weldenvarden.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Literally the only thing I remember is Eragon's naked training under the supervision of some old elf.

...it DID happen, right?
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[personal profile] morieris 2019-08-19 04:55 pm (UTC)(link)
IDR the nudity but yes he did train under Oromis, the other last Dragon Rider besides him and Galbatorix.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I read the first one in high school and didn't really like it, so I'll take your word that they get better, OP.
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[personal profile] jaydestarlight 2019-08-19 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'm shocked to meet people who genuinely enjoyed Eragon, because I thought it faded into obscurity. I know exactly four people who read the series in real life, and most of the people I interacted with online seemed to find it derivative at best or worth meticulous scrutiny to a niche audience at worst.

You do you, I suppose.
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[personal profile] jadeile 2019-08-19 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I take it you mean the last book is actually good in the end. I tried reading the series as a teenager/young adult (note that I read a translated version, so any grammar mistakes and such were fixed during the translation process). The first one I enjoyed, the second one wasn't as good but I gave it a pass, hoping the series would get better eventually, but then the third one was just... awful, boring, messy, and unpleasant to read. I never finished it, and thus I never read the fourth and last volume when it eventually came out. And that was back when I was a teen and less picky than now.

So ehh, I'm glad you like the series, but I believe the bad rap it gets is entirely deserved.