[ SECRET POST #4615 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4615 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Veronica Mars]


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[The Order]


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[Good Omens]


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[Avengers Endgame]


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[Harlots]


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[Mindhunter]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Pretend you're part of some kind of online community for your favorite fandom. Like a discord or message board or group. Politics never comes up or has been a problem and nobody talks about it, but you find out the admins/mods or BNFs of the place have beliefs you consider really distasteful that they post about elsewhere. This is obviously subjective, whatever you consider distasteful

What would you do? Does it color your experience? Do you enjoy their fanwork or fandom-friendship the same? Does Death of the Author/Artist apply here for you?

[(Anonymous)]

It would depend on exactly how distasteful the views are, because I think there's a tipping point with this stuff. I would probably either just ignore it and let it pass and not think about it, or if it was something I really seriously found objectionable, I would probably try to talk to them privately about it and then if that didn't work, leave the community entirely.

[(Anonymous)]

It hasn't happened to me, but I don't know if it'd affect anything. As long as the community itself and the people within the community remained apolitical or neutral, I assume everyone there is self-censoring enough to keep their political opinions separate from the fandom stuff, which is something at least.

As long as they weren't like, part-time Nazis or something, you know

[(Anonymous)]

if they're just the admins of a community and generally don't ever show their faces except to keep things on track and never bring up politics inside the fandom forum, then why the fuck should I care? I've been in hundreds of forums in my internet lifetime and the number of admins or mods I've actually gotten to know personally outside of the forum...I can count them on one hand with lots of fingers left over. like, right now none of the groups I'm a part of have admins I would even have the chance to side-eye if I found out they were a Trump shill because they're never in my internet presence long enough to even remember that they're the admin of the group.

it legit would only matter if I'd been socially active with them tangential to the fandom forum itself and though I knew them only to find out I really don't. because once you're not just a user under the umbrella of a mod and you actually chat enough to be friendly if not friends, it's easier to take it as a betrayal. but just under a moderator-level leadership? nah why should I care.

idk about bnfs in this contest, it's been ages since I've interacted with anyone considered a bnf.

[(Anonymous)]

BNFs could be the people who post the most fanfic or fanart in the group, that might affect how they react to or perceive the fanworks for some people, I guess. For example the novel Twilight and the werewolves imprinting on unborn children was made creepier for some due to Meyer's religion also believing in destined partners, and so forth

[(Anonymous)]

It depends on how distasteful it is and if it affects the board in subtle ways because they are the leaders, etc. Like politics might not come up, but maybe there is a subtle way it affects the discussion. If they're homophobic, do they shame discussion of same sex shipping? That sort of thing. But if I'm not close friends with them and it's not affecting my experience in the community in a negative way and they aren't like condoning genocide or something, then I probably won't go anywhere. I might not read their fic, though, tbh. Sometimes I have a hard time separating the artist from their art.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, I can't stand leftism. Obviously if politics colored my fandom interactions, I wouldn't have any fandom interactions at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, given the Internet in 2019, it just seems implausible that politics would really never come up.

[greghousesgf]

yeah, this

[(Anonymous)]

What if politics do come up but they never participate, then later you find out later they hold views that you hate? Would that affect how you view their fanwork?

[(Anonymous)]

Not in and of itself. Sometimes it does happen where, like, you learn something about somebody and it makes you reevaluate everything you know about them and you notice patterns that you didn't see before.

[morieris]

It would.

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily true. If people never talk about politics, it's probably because they disagree with the majority and don't want to be excommunicated for it. I mean, no one I hang out with in fandom knows I voted for Trump. I never talk about politics, and if it comes up, I politely agree with their moral outrage and quickly change the subject.

[(Anonymous)]

Sorry you're a bootlicker who thought Trump would MAGA and is instead tanking it. But no, rightfully being angry is just "moral outrage." fuck off, Repubilturd.

[(Anonymous)]

I love how the opposing opinion to any argument is always "outrage."

[(Anonymous)]

If politics don't come up and I'm not contributing money or labor to the community or admins, then I don't think it would matter. If I tended to interact with these people a lot, it might be a little weird to remember they believe things I consider terrible, but I wouldn't ignore them or leave the community over it.

[(Anonymous)]

If their views are that abhorrent to you, then do not engage. Leave if you have to. Otherwise, if the streams aren't crossing, don't be the one to cross them.