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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-08-30 06:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #4620 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4620 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Anonymous) 2019-08-30 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that humanity irl, and the humanity in this movie are on two completely different levels. They were learning, and accepting, that dragons were not evil, and how to live alongside them. Humanity does suck, though, I agree.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-31 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
The one group of humans was. Most of humanity wasn't. Exactly one group of vikings, Hiccup's people, were learning. And having to fight every other group of humans who continued to try to destroy dragons.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-31 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
This movie felt like such a non-movie. And not like the conclusion to a trilogy at all. The message was fine I guess. But man, did this just feel like the end of a TV season or something. It did look gorgeous though! Except for the humans who looked like creepy dolls...
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[personal profile] rivia 2019-08-31 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
from my understanding, the ending of HW was the ending of the book series, which had a lot longer to draw out the anti!dragon humans and pro!dragon human conflict and make it seem a lot more dire than it was in the movie. knowing that, the ending bothers me a bit less, but even then it wasn't built up to enough to make sending the dragons away seem like the only option.

(Anonymous) 2019-08-31 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
I loved the ending and the message. I agree with it completely. It's how I feel about domesticated animals in general.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2019-08-31 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
I hated the ending for several reasons.

1. First off, I should admit that Hiccup and Toothless' goodbye reminded me of having to say goodbye to my horse, Sharif, in February of last year. There were so many parallels between the two experiences, with the main differences being that Toothless didn't die and they got to see each other again. Watching that scene made me feel like I was watching Sharif die all over again. That's not really anyone's fault, though. Just an unhappy coincidence.

2. All the same, I thought it ended that way just for cheap angst. Yes, I know the original books had dragons disappear, too, but it's not like the movies ever bothered to stay true to them in practically any other way before, so why start now?

3. The message I took from it was "bigots will always win, so go hide in a great big hole until they magically stop being bigots all on their own, because that's totally how it works." I also take issue with the idea that all humans (barring the Chosen Ones, of course) are pure, puppy-kicking evil and there's nothing you can do about it. I see that mindset as nothing but lazy, low-grade cynicism spouted primarily by those who are determined to see only the worst in everyone and everything, and who are often just trying to justify their own lousy behavior/attitudes by telling themselves (and usually anyone who'll listen) that everyone else is just as bad as them, so there's no point in trying to change. That's just been my experience, though.

4. It was a bit of a stretch to think that not only was Toothless in charge of every single dragon on Earth, but they were all conveniently in hearing range of him when he ordered them to all go underground. Also, how are the flightless dragons supposed to get to the Hidden World? What about the ones with specific food sources that are only native to certain areas, like the buffalord? Not to mention how crowded the place already was. How are they all going to fit there? Where will their food come from?

5. I didn't expect HTTYD3 to acknowledge the TV/Netflix series, but I also didn't expect it to piss all over them, either, and this is my biggest issue with the movie. Both series were fantastic and the people behind them worked really hard to make sure they fit into the movies' canon, and it feels like this movie rendered all of that work moot. The Netflix series in particular showed that there were other pro-dragon people, including those who relied on dragons to survive and vice-versa, as well as people who were initially anti-dragon and who eventually changed their minds. Like, if all dragons are gone, then Mala's village is toast, since their beloved eruptodon won't be around to eat the lava from the frequent eruptions of their island's volcano. Also, I guess the razorwhip dragon is going to go extinct, since the males always eat the babies unless the flying lesbians women of Wingmaiden Island are there to protect and raise them. The aforementioned buffalord won't leave the island where it's only food source grows. And what about the deathsong, which lures other dragons in with its voice and then eats them? Who's gonna volunteer to tell Heather and Dagur that they have to let their dragons go? Someone with a death wish?

Anyway, those're my main complaints. Sorry for the tl;dr. I will say that the wedding was beautiful, though, and Toothless' babies were cute.