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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-09-08 04:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #4629 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4629 ⌋

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Re: What is some of the most ridiculous fandom drama you have watched?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-08 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I never bought into TJLC one single iota and I agree it was crazy, but--

1. The show was all about mysteries and secrets and obscured truths and ferreting out little tiny details which, if you interpreted them "correctly," would allow you to uncover the truth. So the fans were already primed to not trust the narrative as it appeared.

2. The writers then fed into that mentality by going hard on the whole, "Haha! We're so clever! You don't know what we have planned! We are going to trick you and surprise you!" angle. Of course, they never meant any of their trickery to be about John and Sherlock's relationship. But considering how joyfully they fibbed and bluffed about almost everything else in the narrative, it became a bit of a "cried wolf" scenario where nothing they said was believed.

3. People were incredibly emotionally invested in their ship. So once the theories about Johnlock secretly being endgame started appearing, the desire to believe them was immense.

3B. The worse John and Sherlock's canonical relationship became (and it got pretty fucking bad), the more the TJLCers needed to believe their theory. Because if TJLC was true, then everything that sucked about John and Sherlock's relationship only made it better and more intense. Whereas if TJLC wasn't true, then John and Sherlock's relationship was just a big dumpster fire.

4. Apply echo chamber/group delusion effect. Shake vigorously. Serve.

Re: What is some of the most ridiculous fandom drama you have watched?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-08 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL, I like that last line :D.

This is a good explanation in general.
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Re: What is some of the most ridiculous fandom drama you have watched?

[personal profile] nightscale 2019-09-09 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
Apply echo chamber/group delusion effect. Shake vigorously. Serve.

Lmao, that's a fantastic way of putting it. xD

But that is also a very good point about how group-mentality will affect people's perceptions, I have seen otherwise well-reasoned individuals absolutely get lost in fandom-delusion and convince themselves that something is 'going to happen' despite the canon never indicating as such at all. I can understand it to an extent because of wishful thinking, but not to a 'there's a secret hidden ending' level because that's so clearly off-base that you'd have to be willfully misinterpreting everything and just throwing basic logic out of the window.

Re: What is some of the most ridiculous fandom drama you have watched?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-09 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I think when a person wants something to be true obsessively, that's already pretty persuasive. And then when other people who feel the same way they do start saying, "Yeah, that seems legit, I think these conclusions are logical and sound," it becomes incredibly persuasive.

You would think that at some point logic would prevail. Like, no, they didn't film a secret episode, that's crazy talk. But there's a circular, self-reinforcing "logic" to these sorts of things that doesn't break down easily.

Re: What is some of the most ridiculous fandom drama you have watched?

(Anonymous) 2019-09-09 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
LOL... and yup.