[ SECRET POST #4644 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4644 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

lol, because everyone knows there are only two options here: christian or atheist. Other religions and agnosticism are just a mirage.

[philstar22]

Absolutely.

Re: Based on 2

[(Anonymous)]

God I'm so tired of this

[ayumidah]

I do similar before I fall asleep, sometimes for fun, sometimes for fics I'm writing! It's pretty relaxing.

Re: Based on 2

[(Anonymous)]

The majority of people who have abortions have no trauma from it whatsoever.

Honestly, I don't think anyone can possibly know this until we've polled every person who has ever had an abortion. (Note to all posters: This is just a statement, and I am not saying or implying anything about how people ought to feel about having abortions.)

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[tabaqui]

I think that it's been examined and analyzed and talked about pretty well.

https://www.psychiatrictimes.com/trauma-and-violence/abortion-trauma-syndrome

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[(Anonymous)]

DA - thanks for this link! And for talking about your first hand experience. I genuinely believe it's incredibly helpful to other women to hear this kind of thing. I remember being a teenager and thinking abortion was this horrible, traumatic experience by nature, and one that very few women underwent, because that's just always how it had been portrayed. Hearing from people who'd had one and were honestly just relieved and grateful it'd been available to them made such a big difference in demolishing the stigma around the whole thing. It was only when I finally saw people contradicting the omnipresent "trauma and shame" narrative that I finally realized how irrational my own thoughts about abortion had always been.

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[tabaqui]

I hate that women are made to feel that way. Of course, for every person it's different, but i have truly never met anyone who felt anything other than a bittersweet relief. It's not something people *want* to do, but when they *need* to do it, it is a very, very good thing.

I'm glad you got to hear some opposing narratives!

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[(Anonymous)]

The suffering comes from the stigma? I'm sorry but who the fuck are you to make that assumption?

And yes, you have killed a life in potentia. Some people may never grieve that potential life that was lost but some people do, and not because of the patriarchy or stigma or whatever. Do not fucking trivialise their sense of loss.

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[(Anonymous)]

Dude by that logic everytime you have sex using protection you're killing a life in potentia. Am I murderer because I don't want to be a parent but still want to get laid?

[erinptah]

I mean, something doesn't have to be OTT graphic to be triggering. (In the real sense, not in the sense of "I'm upset, and I want to make it sound fancier." The majority of the population doesn't have triggers in the first place.) A general reference to an off-page sexual assault could still hit a reader right in the trauma, if the circumstances are close enough or they're really invested in the character or they just happen to read it on a bad day.

Someone who's read a hundred romance novels (or whatever other category) will have a good idea of the formula, but there's always somebody who just picked up their first book in the genre. So "readers will just know" isn't a good thing to count on.

Plus, there's always genre-bending exceptions! I'd already read a whole lot of sci-fi by the first time I picked up an SF novel that threw in a random scene of Surprise Graphic Bestiality. (Not, like, animalistic aliens or enhanced-to-be-sentient creatures! Just a regular old leopard.)

It wasn't a personally traumatic experience, or anything -- OP is right that most readers don't "need" warnings -- but nobody's claiming "people with severe triggers" are the only group the content warnings would be helpful for.

Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

[(Anonymous)]

Virgin characters being written like they have no idea what a dick/vagina is, or like they're gonna faint at the mere suggestion of sex. Like I do not get the appeal of that at all, not only is it outrageously OOC most of the times I've seen it, it's also so weirdly childish I find it offputting as hell.

God, this. Just because somebody's a virgin doesn't mean they don't have any interest in or knowledge of sex. It would be very nice indeed to see more virgin characters that aren't so freaking awkward about this stuff.

It'd also be nice to see characters whose reasons for virginity aren't tied to their religion or saving themselves for marriage. Not that there's anything wrong with those reasons, just that those aren't the only ones people have for being a virgin.

Re: What fanfic tropes can you not stand?

[nightscale]

The sad thing is in one of my fandoms the half of my OTP that was a virgin wasn't shy or awkward about it, he was closeted so just hadn't had sex because of that, yet a surprising percentage of the fic still keeps writing him as some blushing maiden who doesn't know what a dick is or has never had a dirty thought in his life. Despite the fact that in canon he's the one that initiates sex the first time and isn't remotely shy about it, if anything his boyfriend was more hesitant about it because he has hang-ups about people leaving or using him.

It's like fandom only has two modes with characters when it comes to sex: massive sluts who sleep with literally anyone of their type, or prudes who wouldn't be caught dead even thinking about finding someone hot. Like, there is way more room to work with in-between that folks.

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[(Anonymous)]

Preventing a life from happening isn't the same as terminating life though. Comparing sperm, which any individual sperm only has a 1 in 80 million chance of forming a zygote to post-conception where it's more like a 50/50 shot of getting born is a little unfair. There's arguments to be made about body autonomy and when humanity begins, but condoms are a far cry from abortion and it's annoying when people on either side conflate the two.

[(Anonymous)]

Whenever I see someone use 'sweaty' I think they're an idiot who can't spell and aren't worth listening to anyway. Which is how I assume it started rather than "you're drenched in perspiration"; that or someone was mocking the 'sweetie ur wrong' and the idiots tried to claim it unironically.

[(Anonymous)]

If people weren't writing novel length metas about how GAY they are and how anyone who doesn't ship them is a homophobe, how Gaiman's a homophobe, calling Gaiman a coward on his own twitter feed, and responding with "anything not sexual is JUST FRIENDSHIP AND WE HAVE TOO MUCH M/M FRIENDSHIP ALREADY" with all the nonbinary and ace denial that implies there wouldn't a problem. Just write their smut and tag it, and everyone else can write their non-sexy love fic and tag them and everyone can be happy.
And agreed definitely leave the actors and creators out of it ffs.

[(Anonymous)]

That's not the issue with this fandom though. It's THEY ARE GAY MEN AND IF YOU DON'T SAY THEY'RE IN A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP YOU'RE A HOMOPHOBE.
They're an angel and a demon, the latter shown as a snake and a woman at different times in the show so human gender isn't fixed for them. They don't kiss but it's clear they are, after 6k years of forbidden friendship, deeply in love of some kind. But that's not enough for the current LG crowd, it's 'queerbaiting' if two men care about each other and don't say I love you or screw.