[ SECRET POST #4651 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4651 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Full Out]


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03.
[Stranger Things]


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[Terry Pratchett's Discworld series]


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[Prodigal Son]


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[Michael Sheen in Prodigal Son]



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07.
[Suspiria (2018) / The Craft]










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Comments

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

Intersex people are just about the only people who get a pass on identifying as nb. But intersex (the 1.5% are a highly debated number btw.) is not a regular occurrence that constitutes a third sex.
It's a birth defect. You wouldn't say "humans as a species regularly have anywhere from between 0-7 fingers on one hand" just because a tiny fraction are born with less or more fingers than others.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

How is this different from saying that biological women are the only people who get a pass on identifying as women? How tiny of a fraction of humanity identifies as transgender, btw? Isn't that also a birth defect/mental illness?

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, being transgender is a mental illness. I don't care it's not officially counted as one anymore in some countries. It's a mental condition for which, ultimately, a transition to the gender trans people feel they are is an attempted cure.
If a person is dysphoric and believes only a transition to a gender neutral state will help them, okay, but that is by far the tiniest part of nonbinary people who feel that way. And, no, being a bit uncomfortable about your gender expression doesn't mean you have dysphoria.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT: Sure, I'll agree with that, or rather I'll agree that the nearly constant panic attacks, depression, and suicidal ideation I get while passing as masculine are negatively affecting my life. And there's almost 50 years of recorded research showing that therapeutically bullying people into socially acceptable gender expressions just makes those symptoms worse.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but for that to change, imo, trying to break up rigid expectations of gender expressions for people belonging to one of the two sexes is more important than making up a new gender category for everyone who doesn't fit in. I think in the long run, nobinariism hurts the acceptance of GNC people more than it helps.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT: First of all, that's a false dichotomy. It does not follow that empowering trans people to make our own decisions regarding gender expression, identity, and medical treatment harms acceptance of GNC people. (And that IS how nonbinary and genderqueer got their start, criticism of the coercive gatekeeping of treatment for binary trans people.) There is very little conflict between nonbinary people and GNC people.

Secondly, have you bothered to really look at how gender is constructed in American culture? I've existed in a different gender category for all of my life. I just choose to own that with better words than fairy and fag.

Third, repeating "making up a new gender category for everyone who doesn't fit in" is completely wrong. Few people are advocating that, if any.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

Nonbinary people are not trans.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT: Wow, following up wrongness with wrongness. There's the complex history and diversity of people under the trans umbrella to consider. People who cross-dress for reasons of identity have lived under that umbrella more often than not. Medical and legal transition is a complex, messy, difficult, and individual process, which makes creating some sort of "gold star" standard for trans people impossible. It doesn't really help your case that Feinberg and Bornstein both medically transitioned.

But, I'm getting a great deal of help from binary trans people, and I'm seeing the same doctors as binary trans people. I suspect that the wedge between binary and nonbinary trans people is half psyop, and half ignorant young twits who never show up to community spaces anyway. Suffice it to say, this terrain looks really different when people over the age of 30 are involved.

Re: Quiz Time!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, they are. "Transgender" is and always has been used as an umbrella term that encompasses a variety of gender identities which includes non-binary identities.

Btw, if you think you're in any way standing up for the validity of binary trans people with this attitude, spare me. We don't want or need your support or approval. This is not your community to police.