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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-10-03 05:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4654 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4654 ⌋

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[Great British Bake Off, season 10]


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(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I'm really surprised by a lot of the reactions here. I did not read the secret in a negative way at all - I think OP was not saying that characters were misdescribed/beautified, but more that fic writers focus on the little features that very ordinary-looking characters have and bigging them up as something special - and that is lovely thing <3 Because we all have those beautiful little features and it's like someone noticing them at last.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I thought so too. It can get weird when writers blatantly ignore that an actor isn't especially young or talk about a character having perfectly flawless skin when that's clearly not the case, but I think it's great when writers think a non-flawless, not especially young, and/or not entirely conventionally attractive actor is good-looking.

(It's also perfectly logical that ship fic would have characters thinking each other beautiful because that's how they see each other.)

(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
"Makes people more good looking" is a pretty different thing from "describes a character as being good looking." The wording in the first example implies that the authors are choosing to either ignore features that they don't think are attractive or, worse yet, erase those features entirely.

Describing a character as good looking is acknowledging that maybe the character isn't the most beautiful or handsome, but they're still good looking even despite that.

There's a character in one of my fandoms who gets the first case all the time and I hate it. He's a very striking man! But he is also in his 40s and looks it and has a Roman nose and fanart is constantly erasing both of these things in favor of turning him into a pretty boy because I guess that people think he isn't "attractive" unless he is conventionally handsome. It's dumb as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
DA

There is no implication, the meaning is the same. Your argument is very weak here, and the only reason you're making it is because you disagree, rather than accepting there is more than one way to see a certain thing.
The only difference is people's perspective. You personally have seen people doing what the OP is saying in a negative way, that doesn't make OP's secret negative in and of itself.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I agree that's what the secret was saying and I like it when a writer does that - seen through the eyes of a lover.

But far too often everyone is suddenly a waifish prettyboy/musclebound hunk/busty & curvy/supermodel but not a weird-looking one, like people lust after them in the streets attractive. Also, nobody looks older than 25, and that's really off-putting.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-04 07:02 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think there's anything wrong with OP's secret at all. Some people just look at it differently from OP, that's all it is, just different perspectives