case: (Default)
Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-10-19 05:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #653 ]


⌈ Secret Post #653 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

101.


__________________________________________________



102.
[Katekyo Hitman Reborn!; Dino/Hibari]


__________________________________________________



103.
[Stargate Atlantis; McShep]


__________________________________________________



104.
[Beatles]


__________________________________________________



105.


__________________________________________________



106.


__________________________________________________



107.


__________________________________________________



108.


__________________________________________________



109.
[Miyavi]


__________________________________________________



110.


__________________________________________________



111.
[Catherine Tate/James Nesbitt]


__________________________________________________



112.
[FFVII etc; Zack Fair]


__________________________________________________



113.


__________________________________________________



114.
[The Office]


__________________________________________________



115.


__________________________________________________



116.
[Camp Rock]


__________________________________________________



117.
[Kingdom Hearts]


__________________________________________________



118.
[Picture is Torchwood]


__________________________________________________



119.
[Vincent Van Gogh/Paul Gauguin]


__________________________________________________



120.
[Matila]


__________________________________________________



121.


__________________________________________________



122.


__________________________________________________



123.
[Detroit Metal City]


__________________________________________________



124.
[Mamma Mia (movie)]


__________________________________________________



125.


__________________________________________________



126.


__________________________________________________



127.


__________________________________________________



128.
[Code Geass]


__________________________________________________



129.


__________________________________________________



130.


__________________________________________________



131.
[Alexander Hamilton?]


__________________________________________________



132.


__________________________________________________



133.


__________________________________________________



134.
[Xenosaga]


__________________________________________________



135.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


__________________________________________________



136.


__________________________________________________



137.
[Yu Yu Hakusho]


__________________________________________________



138.


__________________________________________________



139.


__________________________________________________



140.
[Gurren Lagann; Kittan]


__________________________________________________



141.


__________________________________________________



142.
[Torchwood]


__________________________________________________



143.


__________________________________________________



144.
[OrgInfinity; Black Tears]


__________________________________________________



145.
[Hellboy]


__________________________________________________



146.
[pic is GirlSnake and GirlOtacon from MGS]


__________________________________________________



147.
[G Gundam]


__________________________________________________



148.
[The Office]


__________________________________________________



149.
[Zelda: Phantom Hourglass]


__________________________________________________



150.


__________________________________________________



151.


__________________________________________________



152.
[Hoshi no Yakata by Tori Maia]


__________________________________________________



153.
[Buffy the Vampire Slayer]


__________________________________________________



154.
[Destination Truth]


__________________________________________________



155.
[World of Warcraft]


__________________________________________________



156.
[Metal Gear Solid]


__________________________________________________



157.


__________________________________________________



158.


__________________________________________________



159.
[Death Note]


__________________________________________________



160.



Notes:

CITY STUFF → http://lolbuttsex.myminicity.com/

HAS EVERYONE SEEN THE MOTHER 3 FAN TRANSLATION? (:

Secrets Left to Post: 15 pages, 367 secrets from Secret Submission Post #094.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 3 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 2 - doing it wrong ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2008-10-20 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
you're also typifying the victimized attitudes that some slash fans have for no particular reason.

"No particular reason?" Maybe it's because of people who constantly (like, say, in every single f!s post I've seen since I started visiting this comm a few months ago) harp on how much they don't like slashers. Constantly accusing people of things tends to make them defensive.

I think slash fans are way more sexist than het fans

You said that "hating on female chars for being in the way" was something that het fans didn't do. When I pointed out that all 'shippers did that, you said that you're not going to hear "I hate all male/female characters" coming from het/gen fandom any time soon. After I said that there were other types of misogyny in het and gen fandom, you asked me to list ones that were "comparable." So, it sounds like that's exactly what you were saying.

I think all het fans are perfect, shining examples of integrity

No, that was (poorly executed) sarcasm. When I pointed out instances of het fans behaving badly, you defended them. So, I made a ridiculously over the top response intended to show you how biased you were being. It didn't work, obviously.

I am creating double-standards by which to judge slash and het fans

When you keep talking about how annoying slash fans are while simultaneously defending het fans at every single opportunity, what am I supposed to think?

I believe that het fans never have any bad motives whatsoever

That's called "hyperbole". Maybe you shouldn't take everything at face value.

I am lying, or maybe just in denial

I said that right after you made an obviously untrue statement.

I think that slash is inferior to het/gen

Hmm, maybe "inferior" isn't the right word. But you certainly have an extremely negative view of slashers.

I think that all slash fans are stupid, immature 14 year olds

No, just most of them.

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-10-20 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
No, you made good points about qualifying and scaling sexism. I don't think I can conclusively say that slash has more sexism than het, but it has some seriously sexist thinking that's altogether too common.

I'm not defending het fans at every opportunity, nor am I bashing slash fans at every opportunity. I don't even understand how you got that impression but it's pretty consistent with your (largely unfounded) approach to me in general, so what am I supposed to do about it?

I don't have a negative view of slashers. I have issues with a couple specific corners of slash fandom, but I've got similar ones with het fandom. If I'm giving anyone preference here it's definitely the gen folks.

I didn't infer most of them any more than I inferred all of them.

(Anonymous) 2008-10-20 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I can conclusively say that slash has more sexism than het, but it has some seriously sexist thinking that's altogether too common.

I agree.

I'm not defending het fans at every opportunity, nor am I bashing slash fans at every opportunity.

... I need to cut out the hyperbole, don't I? It's not translating well. My point was that, when presented with a critical view of het fans behavior, you defended them. Since you didn't do the same thing to slash fans, even in similar situations, it struck me as unbalanced.

I don't even understand how you got that impression but it's pretty consistent with your (largely unfounded) approach to me in general, so what am I supposed to do about it?

Yeah, I really shouldn't have said that. Can I play the "it's late and I've had a bad day" card? I have seen you involved in other discussions where you were very critical of slash fans, but it wasn't fair for me to bring that up.

If I'm giving anyone preference here it's definitely the gen folks.

Most people do. I'm not trying to say anything negative about the gen fans themselves, since all the ones I've known have been perfectly nice, but I do think gen fans get treated differently than 'shippers. It's unfair, but what are you gonna do?