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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-10-19 03:12 pm

[ SECRET POST #4670 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4670 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 09:27 am (UTC)(link)
Not really. To a lot of people (but not all) sexual attraction is more to the physical characteristics than to personal gender identity. A women who is attracted solely to female-bodied people, regardless of their identity, and not to male-bodied people, regardless of their identity, is closer to a lesbian than to a bisexual.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
You can just say men or women it's okay. To me gender stereotypes are not equal to actual gender so a man or woman who dresses/behaves like a woman or man is still a man or woman and that's okay. I prefer it when people break the norms, myself included.

Anyway, if you are attracted to a male or female character that is "making you straight" or "making you gay" rather than just seeing him/her as someone's style you want to emulate (looking up to them) or just wanting to really be his/her friend because you really trust this character (platonic), etc, then that is called being bisexual.

In my pov it's "normal to be attracted to characters that dont match your sexuality" to quote you, because it means you are just finding out other parts of yourself that you like women or men too and this is your type.

As for the envy thing, I call her a girl because when I was younger I only read the manga and didnt get as far to see her creation was down to a hormunculous or something. It was too expensive to continue collecting so I had to stop, but I can understand OP being attracted to her androgynous looks. Although I understand now she doesn't have any primary sex characteristics, and she has a very flat chest but also wider hips so the whole "no gender" thing makes sense in retrospect.

Anyway thanks for replying and reading this too

(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
No, I can't say men or women, because I don't mean men or women. I mean male-bodied people and female-bodied people, which can include transgender, intersex, and nonbinary individuals, with and without surgery.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 06:45 pm (UTC)(link)
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And it has nothing to do with dressing and everything to do with the genitals.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
That's what I'm saying too, dont worry. Men and women are born as men and women and that cannot be changed, but they can dress how they want and behave how they want

(Anonymous) 2019-10-21 05:53 am (UTC)(link)
I do worry, because it's not what you're saying at all. See, people can also have a full-body surgery to get the body that fits my preference.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-21 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
DA damn you chuggin that koolaid sis

(Anonymous) 2019-10-20 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I dont even know what non binary means but getting back to the original point, if you're attracted to both sexes you're bisexual, regardless whether they're real or fictional

(Anonymous) 2019-10-21 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
But I'm not attracted to both sexes. I'm attracted to people who have female secondary sex characteristics. Whether those people are women or men doesn't matter. Whether they gain those characteristics thanks to their chromosomes, or surgery doesn't matter. I am attracted to female-bodied people.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-21 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Please don't think that "including" trans people means you have to use "-bodied people" instead of saying men and women. Trans women ARE women. Trans men ARE men. Straight guys who date trans women are still straight, and straight women who date trans men are still straight. Are genitals sometimes a deal breaker? Yeah, but that's true for cis people too; plenty of girls aren't attracted to tiny dicks or have preferences on cut/uncut, and plenty of dudes have Opinions™️ about the bodies of women they would and would not fuck.

(Anonymous) 2019-10-21 05:58 am (UTC)(link)
It's easier and faster to say "female-bodied people" than to say "people with female secondary sex characteristics". Most people in most cultures have a certain idea of what the term "female body" pertains to.