[ SECRET POST #4679 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4679 ⌋

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Comments

[tabaqui]

THIS.
But that is my big problem with a LOT of sci-fi.
'The aliens only let you live/came to help/stopped killing everyone because hoooooooomans are soooooooooooooo special!!!!'

Yucko.

I always got so pissed at McCoy (even though i liked him) for ragging on Spock for 'not feeling'. He *does* feel, you jerk. He just doesn't shout it from the mountaintops.

[philstar22]

This. And, in fact, plenty of humans have controlled and not extreme emotions as well.

[tabaqui]

Right? Arrgh.
It always seemed so disrespectful and not in the mode of 'tolerant future people' at all.

Though i will admit that in the one ep, The Menagerie, we get a flashback of the original landing party, and when Spock touches the 'singing' plant and then SMILES.....

Well. :D

[philstar22]

Yes, so, there is a story behind that. Originally, Number One was going to be the unemotional one. But the studio hated the original pilot and wanted all the characters gotten rid of. They allowed Roddenberry to keep one after he fought for it. He chose Spock and then gave him the unemotional character trait that was originally meant for Number One.

[tabaqui]

Yeah. AND - number one was going to be Christine Chapel (or, the actress, at least, Majel) which REALLY makes me mad that they wouldn't allow her to be that high up in the damn command.

[philstar22]

It would have been awesome. But then again, we wouldn't have gotten Kirk.

[(Anonymous)]

I love Number One so much, but I wouldn't trade all the other TOS characters for her. (But if she had her own show I would watch it!) I think the character appears in Discovery, but I haven't watched that (or checked for novels about her - I'm sure they exist).

[philstar22]

The Menagerie is clips from what was the original pilot.

[(Anonymous)]

I think the reason I didn't mind it so much from McCoy is because the show clearly shows that he's wrong, and as it goes on that he likely knows it as well, and by this point is just trying to get Spock to show emotion as well as just feeling it. We're never really supposed to think that McCoy is right in calling Spock an unfeeling machine.

But Kirk calling Spock 'human' in his eulogy is clearly supposed to be the highest possible compliment, on both Kirk and the show's part, and never mind what it says about how much they value Spock's vulcan heritage.

It's also darkly funny to me that the fact that Spock's soul is in fact vulcan is what saves his life.

[tabaqui]

I recently re-watched season 1 and man - McCoy made me MAD. He was such a jerk to Spock so fucking often..... I mean, legitimately *nasty*.

I still like McCoy, but man - slow your roll, dude.

[(Anonymous)]

Given what an on the nose metaphor Spock was for the Other, I think having the otherwise likable cranky Southerner being obnoxiously racist and also obviously wrong for it all the time was probably the point. Subtlety wasn’t Season 1’s strong point.

[tree_and_leaf]

Yes, this.