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⌈ Secret Post #658 ⌋

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[Looking For Group]

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[Johnny the Homicidal Maniac]

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[Fanfiction; Voldemort Kaulitz]

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[The Penguin of Death]

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[Death Note, Mello]

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[MCA, KH II]

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[Psychonauts]

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[Avatar]

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[Ashes to Ashes, Shaz Granger]

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[Code Geass, C.C.]

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[Whitest Kids U' Know]

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[Nabari no Ou]

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[BoA]

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[QI, Jeremy Clarkson, Sean Lock]

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[Star Trek]

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[I suggest Kamina]

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[Ken Russell's The Devils, Father Barre]

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[Stephen Colbert/Kathleen Parker]

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107. Eehhh Ahiru wasn't a Sue to me, she was the inversed allegory of the Ugly Duckling. She never became a swan to be loved, she remained herself. It's a very healthy message for young girls. Ditto about Rue. Teaches girls it's OKAY to not be perfect (Tutu. TUTU is the Sue) or vixens (Kraehe) just to be themselves. :)

121. What's wrong with tomboys? Girly-girls can be as cliché moe-wank bait as man hating manly girls in fiction. It depends in the execution.

If there's an actual Anime series with really well done female characters is The Twelve Kingdoms, IMO (well done as: they are people rather than good characters to me). There you go: real, flawed girls without MOE MOE fanservice traits with a great development. I preferred the novels, but I was glad they didn't ruin the fun in the Anime.

Seconding what you said about Princess Tutu and Twelve Kingdoms :)

I think the secret wasn't saying that she hated tomboy characters--just that she doesn't think characters should be bashed for being "girly".

Point is, lots of people tend to automatically dismiss girly characters as "weak", "whores", "idiotic" and/or "Mary Sues" and then latch on tomboys specifically for "not being girly". That's asinine, since it implies that having ANY kind of feminine traits degrade women into useless, stupid stereotypes that are bad examples for girls (because EVERY single female MUST be a rolemodel AND must always be under the watch of everyoen AND how DARE she fail and be human).

I think that's the point the OP was trying to make, so those are my 2 cents.

I think that's valid if they are treated as objects in their own canon. They'll be just fanservice and not really real respectable characters (not this example, just saying). The same goes for male characters. Besides I never saw this "mythic" girly girls bashing, what I see is a constant bashing of girls who aren't girly, this secret included.

Most female (and MALE) characters in fiction are terrible role models, anyway. Exceptions happen, but really... This doesn't mean they aren't cool, but role models?

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