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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-02 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #4684 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4684 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 03:21 am (UTC)(link)
Han Solo is my favorite Star Wars character, so the fact that he forgave Kylo Ren right before his own death holds a lot of weight to me.

Zuko wanted love from his family that he knew, deep down, he was never going to receive. Kylo Ren wanted to be in control after a life devoid of it (which he immediately and publicly undermined dealing with Luke). I think both reasons are sympathetic.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
One of the main reasons that Zuko's story is sympathetic and Kylo's is not is that Kylo's a grown-ass man in his thirties who acts fifteen and Zuko's a 16-year-old who's been forced to grow up early. A child making mistakes based on what they've been raised to believe and then learning that they can be better is sympathetic. An adult using "control issues" as an excuse for mass murder and fascism is just pathetic.

Also, lots of parents love their kids. I wouldn't read too much into Han being one of them.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 03:46 am (UTC)(link)
...you know he was stabbed in the chest right AFTER the forgiveness, right? Like. Right back to the drawing board on that one.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-04 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
No, I'm talking about Han touching Kylo's face. That moment of forgiveness.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Zuko wanted love from his family that he knew, deep down, he was never going to receive. Kylo Ren wanted to be in control after a life devoid of it

Kylo had a life devoid of love? Since when?? What exactly do people think of Han and Leia??

Honestly, it amazes me how willing Ren fans are willing to throw two of the most beloved and iconic characters of all time under the bus for the sake of Kylo freaking Ren.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 05:29 am (UTC)(link)
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Okay, I realize you may be referring to Kylo's life being devoid of CONTROL, which - okay. But it still doesn't even come close to justifying what he's done, and is still staggering less sympathetic than Zuko's backstory.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-03 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU. Every time I see shit about poor miserable Kylo Ren whose parents didn’t understand him I cringe, and I’m not even a big Han fan. The writing of the prequel trilogy mostly sucked, but at least “grew up a slave and was taken away from his mom who died because he was too far away to help her” Anakin had an excuse to be fucked up. What he did wasn’t justified, but at least it kind of made sense. Kylo could’ve channeled his pointless angst into being lead singer of a punk band or something and instead was like “I’m gonna be a genocidal maniac!”