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Sure, there are unethical doctors who prescribe for addicts the same way there are unethical doctors who prescribe pain pills for addicts. I don't think there is any difference between the two, and I think ethical doctors prescribing it for patients where it will help are prescribing it perfectly reasonably as medicine. It does have medical uses and benefits. And in fact it can have less harmful side effects and less addictive tendencies than many painkillers.

You're relative is clearly not taking it as medicine. But I don't think that extrapolates to anyone else but your relative. Others who are taking it as prescribed by their doctor are taking it as medicine.

Sure, if prescribed ethically. Note that *I* haven't attempted to extrapolate here the way you're arguing. I'm referring specifically to people like my cousin, i.e. people who have zero background in medicine and are self-medicating with weed. I'd feel the same way if people were self-medicating with prescription pain pills.

Okay, then. It sounded to me like you were saying it could never be a medicine. That's all I was arguing against.

I understand that. What I don't understand is your need argue against something you assumed I said, but didn't actually say. You don't have any actual basis for assuming that's what I meant. My original post was very specific, about a specific person in a specific situation. I don't mean to disrespect your reading skills, but I'm wondering where your assumptions come from, because it's not me.

Where you said "calling something medicine doesn't make it medicine" that sounded more generalized to me. That seemed like a more general statement, not just talking about your relative. Especially since you were responding to someone else who was saying they find weed medicinal, and you don't actually know whether or not they've been prescribed by their doctor. The way you phrased it came across as just dismissive of the idea that weed could ever be a medicine at all.

They said they took weed for chronic pain. That sound legit to you? Not that they were prescribed, mind you. "Took". Much like how my relative takes weed for her anxiety, because she decided it's good for her anxiety. If ayrt has been prescribed weed by an actual doctor as a treatment for chronic pain, then I'll apologize to ayrt.

I'm dismissive of the idea that people can label whatever they like "medicine" because they personally find it helpful. I mean sure, it's "medicine" in the way that "laughter is the best medicine" or a nice bowl of chicken soup when you've got a cold is "medicine", but it's not... medicine in the sense that it's been legitimately developed, regulated, prescribed and taken with professional oversight. Medical marjiana is a thing. Not all marijuana products are medical.

I agree with you that there is a lack of oversight in a lot of places, and I think it is the lack of legality that creates that lack of oversight. Legalizing it at least for medicinal purposes allows there to be controls on when and how it is prescribed.

And frankly, I personally am in favor of complete legalization because I don't see much difference between marijuana and alcohol or cigarettes. Legalized but controlled is the way to go I think, with laws in place for people being publicly high and such.

Given your many assumptions, this might surprise you but I'm in favor of legalization and regulation, too. I just side eye people who conflate recreational use and medical use when medical guidelines and oversight don't apply.

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I’m really weirded out by how much you’re leaning into this “doctor = legitimate” thing, because it just makes you sound like you’re more annoyed that your relative is breaking a rule than actually smoking. I don’t know how to tell you this, but legal/medical states have literally all the same shit that dealers do it’s just more expensive and above board.

Well, personally I'd say there is a level of oversight you get with legality that you can't get without it. So I think having that legality and a prescription is important for that reason. But yes, I agree the OP seems a little obsessed with it.

I live in a legal state, and honesty not really. There’s “regulation”, but it’s all very fuzzy and easily loopholed. Edibles especially fluctuate big time on doses, and it’s nearly impossible to get a completely accurate breakdown of what each strain contains, because every plant is different, but it’s close enough.

There’s also that the states that legalized recreational weed pretty much completely destroyed the medical sector, so in OP’s weird world, her relative would STILL be in the wrong if they were in a legal state and buying it above board for the (medicinal) purpose of alleviating their anxiety, because A dOcToR dIdN’t PrEsCrIbE iT!!

If someone is taking a drug as medication, that requires oversight because dosages need to be calculated to help rather than harm, and because drug interactions are a thing. When people take drugs in the form of self-medication without the oversight of a doctor, etc. they're taking not insignificant risks with their health, just as they would be if they were taking prescription pills without consulting a doctor about the dosage and whether or not it was right for them and didn't have any adverse side effects or interactions with the drugs they're already taking.

It does have medical uses and benefits.

Except this has not been proven. So far there is no scientific evidence to indicate any clearly-defined medical effects from plain old weed. The CBD liquid medication for seizures, yes, but that is not the same thing as just smoking weed.

Given the overwhelming amount of personal anecdotes about its positive effects and the actual judgmental reasons research is not abundant, go fuck yourself. It's prescribed for people. It's prescribed for dogs. Everyone knows it can help people unless they're snorting the propaganda that's been surrounding weed for racist, classist and ableist reasons for over a century.

there are tons of personal anecdotes about the positive effects of any homeopathic treatment. that doesn't make any of them factually true.

Homeopathic has a specific definition and weed is not it.

Go look up Marinol and then get back to me.

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